A Poster Child for White Privilege
You can't make this stuff up.
Via Dallas’ CBS affiliate comes the stunning tale of the Dallas area real estate agent who took a private jet to the Stop the Steal rally, was part of the mob who stormed the capitol, and now wants a pardon: North Texan Jenna Ryan Tells CBS 11 She Deserves Pardon After Arrest For Alleged Role In Capitol Riot.
The video at the link really needs to be watched the get the full impact, but here are the basics (emphases mine):
“I just want people to know I’m a normal person. That I listen to my president who told me to go to the Capitol. That I was displaying my patriotism while I was there and I was just protesting and I wasn’t trying to do anything violent and I didn’t realize there was actually violence,” Ryan said. “I’d just like to apologize for all of the families that are affected by any of the negative environment and I’d just like to say I really love people and I am not a villain that a lot of people would make me out to be, or people think I am, because I was a Trump supporter at the Capitol.”
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“I think we all deserve a pardon. I’m facing a prison sentence. I think I do not deserve that and from what I understand, every person is going to be arrested that was there, so I think everyone deserves a pardon, so I would ask the President of the United States to give me a pardon.”
I am not sure what word best describes this? Narcissism? Solipsism?Chutzpah?
It is clearly privilege.
It is hardly “personal responsibility.”
Allow me to snark for a minute: Antifa is playing quite the multi-level game having a white, middle-aged real estate agent fly to DC in a private jet, storm the capitol, and then go back to Texas to then make Trump look bad by saying that she did it because he told the crowd to do it. And kudos for the added bonus of underscoring the corrupt way that Trump uses the pardon power.
And nothing says “patriotism” like getting a photo taken by a window broken by a mob to facilitate illegal entry into the US Capitol.
And, no doubt, her concerns about families affected are heartwarming. I am sure the families of those who died because of the insurrectionist mob will feel better upon hearing them.
Her attitude is utterly galling. There is no remorse here. She thinks she had the right to be involved in a riot at the US Capitol and suffer not one whit of consequence. She is treating it like an unfair parking ticket.
It is peak Karen and a level of white privilege that is off the scale.
She posted that pic of herself grinning and making a v-for-victory sign outside a broken window at the Capitol Building. She stated that she and her cohorts would come after the studios of the news media next if the press didn’t stop lying about them. She was photographed invading the building.
What did she expect? A bouquet?
I’ve been trying to write an apt, or at least amusing comment. But I fiend I’m speechless.
Contrary to popular belief Dr Taylor, this is the typical Trump Supporter. Its isn’t toothless rabble from the rural backwoods. Those people are an outgroup with very little economic power or political power. If they weren’t…we would have gotten a George Wallace clone like Trump years ago.
No, Trumps power base are entitled upper class white people like this Karen. I can drive though trailerville and white wonderland in my part of Central Florida and see the same density of Trump flags and hard signs.
We are going to see our Natl Security apparatus stomp on the groins of the lower class Trumpites…good. But people like this Karen, who have money, means, and belong to conservative polite society are largely going to be unaffected by any of this.
Frankly, this is the American way.
Throw the book at her. (Speaking as an upper-middle class female myself.) Stupidity should hurt.
I suspect that for the rest of her life–if she doesn’t receive “a pardon from Trump”–she’s going to be whining about how MEEEAN the justice system was to her and how she’s really a nice person and it’s so UNFAIR that she got slapped on the wrist and….
Look, idiot. If you were black and had tried the same thing, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. You’d have a tag on your big toe in the mortuary and everyone would be saying “she got what she deserved.” Learn some history, hmmm?
@CSK:
To crush her enemies. See them driven before her. And to hear the lamentations of the Oberlin Student Council.
A boot stamping on a liberal snowflake’s face – forever.
I’m not even being (entirely) facetious here. She almost certainly believed that Q and the military were going to arrest all the liberal child sex traffickers and uppity Untermenschen.
These people aren’t seeing things clearly. It’s white privvilege that up until now allowed her to get away with it.
“…I listen to my president who told me t go to the capital.”
Is this her excuse? “The Donald made me do it”?
@Jim Brown 32: FWIW, this is not surprising to me (save, perhaps, her willingness to just stand on her porch and say it to the cameras).
Two thoughts here;
Look how little actual prison time Affluenza Teen Ethan Couch served, in-spite of all the follow on madness from his original crimes and bond violations.
On the flipside, I’m a bit of a tax geek, how did/does Ms. Jenna expense her private jet flights?
If Trump pardons any of these people, even one, I’d say that qualifies as giving aid and comfort to enemies of the United States, which qualifies as treason.
Every time, the response to “you did this!” is “But I am THAT!” Crime is about what you did, not who you are.
@grumpy realist:
If I had the power to execute a truly just outcome, I’d imprison this Karen in a cell adjoining Trump’s, then I fill the rest of the cell block with MAGA rioters.
All day, Trump would have to listen to his ‘supporters’ blame him for how unfairly they’ve been treated for just doing what he told them to do. And they would get to hear directly from him how deeply in contempt he holds all of them now that he can’t get anything of value to him out of them.
@Steven L. Taylor:
“@Jim Brown 32: FWIW, this is not surprising to me (save, perhaps, her willingness to just stand on her porch and say it to the cameras).”
One of the rare upsides of instant video fame, is it can be quite useful in allowing the trash to take it’s self out.
@Jay L Gischer: “Crime is about what you did, not who you are” in theory. As Owen notes, it’s not so true in practice in the good ol’ USA.
Just another day in America.
@Scott F.:
I don’t think the hardcore Trumpkins would ever blame Trump for anything, not even if he personally ordered and supervised their torture and execution.
They don’t and can’t see the real Trump who is so clear and obvious to the rest of us. They never will.
@Jim Brown 32: If you get the right lawyer, we have the best legal system in the world.
Actually, it is, since personal responsibility is for those without privilege. I’ve experienced the same shift with “academic freedom” cited by an administrator as the reason for putting a tenured professor on administrative leave for giving a lecture in his class on a topic of dispute on campus. Academic freedom in that case was being free of having to listen to things he didn’t want to hear. It’s all centered on “I have rights; you don’t.”
@Owen: “…how did/does Ms. Jenna expense her private jet flights?”
I don’t think she’ll be able to this time. 😉
@Just nutha ignint cracker: Oh ye of little faith. I’ll bet she finds a way to expense her lawyers too.
I may have to reassess my position on hardcore Trumpkins never abandoning him. According to an article by Jesselyn Cook in the U.K. Huff Post, “Donald Trump’s Far Right Extremist Army Has Turned on Him.”
The gang over st Lucianne.com is still, however, with Trump all the way.
@OzarkHillbilly: Oh the tales Allen Weisselberg could probably tell (and might, but not likely)!
@Kathy:
I agree that a Trump pardon would be wrong as it would be taken the wrong way by the perps, but what if Biden did it? Not the truly militarized ones, and certainly not the ones who hit anybody or something like that, but just the Karens of both sexes in that crowd. My gut tells me much of that crowd was like a soccer hooligan crowd, drunk on having a POTUS as their cheerleader. Many surely now view, in the light of their body cavity searches, their actions very differently. Just a thought.
@CSK: I’m presuming sitting in prison will have a dampening effect on the Trump faithful’s enthusiasm for the man. The gang over at Lucianne.com are armchair insurrectionists only, so they’ll stay hard core to the end.
@Scott F.:
You’re absolutely right about the armchair insurrectionism. A lot of people a LCom claimed they’d be there in D.C. on Jan. 6 to support Trump. I haven’t seen any of them admitting to having gone there since Jan. 7.
The insurrectionists who’ve abandoned Trump for being a traitorous pussy still seem determined to start a civil war to clear out the “deep state.”
Anyone who passed through the doors of the capital should be sentenced to a decade behind bars.. Everyone callus enough to be present (complicent) evidenxed by social media posts should get fined $10,000 and 1 yr suspended sentence + 1000 hrs community services.. If these idiots aren’t publicly made an example of, their behavior will escalate. It’s disgusting courts are releasing them out on bond. I hope the National Guard has orders to shoot to kill if there’s violence in the coming weeks.
@CSK: I’m wondering when they will come to the realization that with Trump failing to arrest thousands of pedophiles that he was either corrupted by the deep state or that Q is the deep state.
I predict the rise of R, who reveals that Q was a Democrat feeding false information to protect the pedophiles at Pizza Hut from Trump.
Not to them. As a lawyer I found that the most consistent feature of conservative clients. Criminality is innate. There are criminals and good people. Good people can do crimes but remain good people who made some errors. I actually had a client walk out after a guilty verdict and complain that the persecutor “treated him like a criminal”.
On the other hand the criminal underclass is criminal even when they did nothing and require a firm hand to stay on the straight path. It’s pretty annoying. Internally I rejoiced when the persecutor, who had heard the exchange, threw a “well now you are one, I have that in writing” over his shoulder :D.
I think that someone who has a private plane has a lot more privilege than just white privilege.
That said, if Herman Cain joined the insurrection, he would be dead.
And the dead marching on the capitol would be deeply disturbing — bad enough he was continuing to tweet “Covid isn’t so bad” stuff after he died of it…
@Gustopher:
They are going to be pissed when they are told Q was actually…
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@dazedandconfused: ” but what if Biden did it?”
They would take it as their due, with Biden only doing what he was supposed to do, like the waiter who brings them their meal.
@Gustopher: If Herman Cain had joined the insurrection it would have been the resurrection. That being said, there were people of color in the crowd, both inside and outside of the Capitol, but in very small numbers.
@Gustopher:
Her Twitter bio says she is a real estate agent and a “radio show host.” And since the URL to her real estate business appears dead, I am guessing she isn’t much of a broker. One of her tweets makes it sound like the private plane thing was some big treat (that is, it doesn’t sound like her plane).
@Gustopher:
I can’t claim to understand the thought processes of QAnon adherents. From what I understand, whenever Trump fails to fulfill a prediction, they invent some sort of explanation/rationalization.
In any case, Trump and his helper, John F. Kennedy, Jr., have only tomorrow, Monday, and Tuesday to rid the world of the scourge of globalist cannibal pedophiles.
@wr:
I think that accurate…IF they were pardoned before having a month or two of contemplating real probability of serving serious time and having the label “felon” on them when they get out along with all that entails. Their lawyers will educate them, at least for the most part. They will also educate themselves and if they aren’t scared spitless they have no brain.
After such contemplation, they WILL be grateful.
It’s not them I’m mostly thinking about though, it’s all the others who have been convinced everybody with a D behind their name has horns and a tail.
@Steven L. Taylor: Just to beat Kathy to it – there are pictures of her with the plane. It’s a Piaggio built turboprop, not technically a “jet”, although all the news stories call it one.
@Steven L. Taylor:
<blockquoteOne of her tweets makes it sound like the private plane thing was some big treat (that is, it doesn’t sound like her plane).
The plane N267TA is registered to Pierwest Aviation, in Tulsa, OK.
https://registry.faa.gov/AircraftInquiry/Search/NNumberResult?nNumberTxt=N267TA
So the plane she is pictured with is not hers. Although I don’t know if that is exactly the plane she flew on.
Interestingly, Flightaware does show N267TA departing Denton, Texas (DTO) for Manassas Regional Airport (HEF), which is SW of Washington D.C. on January 5.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N267TA
@Ebenezer_Arvigenius:..I actually had a client walk out after a guilty verdict and complain that the persecutor “treated him like a criminal”.
How far did they get to walk? To catch the bus to Rikers?
I was going with “W” myself, cause isn’t the Group W bench full of daughter rapers? And mother rapers?? And father rapers???
That we have interpret the actions of duly elected federal representatives through the prism of Q is truly disturbing.
Boebert seems to be shooting herself in the foot even as she entered the chamber. Cawthorn hamstrung himself with his 1/6 tweets.
And with whatever her name is outta SC something something Green: (googles) Marjorie Taylor Green, R’s complaining about AOC look like fools.
Motes and beams. Physician heal thyself.
@Steven L. Taylor:
Anyone can hire a private plane just about anywhere. All it takes is money. There are small outfits with one or two planes, larger ones, even some commercial airlines have a business jet division.
My schaden is officially overfreuded 😀
@Kathy:
I took a private plane out of Montego Bay to Port Antonio.
It was an 8 seater. Overbooked. 6 of the 8 seats were oil men out of Houston and as rancid as that implies. Racist, disdainful, dickish. I ended up in the co-pilots seat up way front.
I believe the airline’s name was Air Tim. Tim decided I would sit the co-pilot seat just eye-balling us.
The Texans brought a shit ton of baggage.
You have to be on the ball to balance it correctly. It is your life to balance properly.
That was a memorable flight. Tim had to navigate south and east of an encroaching thunderstorm quickly. The Texans were dicks. Backseat driving.
After we got around the storm, Tim relaxed a bit. Let me steer a tiny bit for a few minutes with the yoke but not the pedals. I think he was sending a message to the Texans. Be cool. I was a pawn.
I like a lot of Texans, but white rich Texans are too often toxic. I was super cool being Tim’s pawn because they deserved to be dragged.
OTOH, scrappy Jamaican pilots dealing with toxic tourists and telling them to shut the fuck up when a storm threatens impresses me.
Fly Tim Air if you have that choice. Dude is super righteous.
@HarvardLaw92:
Well, of course she doesn’t feel she deserves prison. After all, she’s a patriot who only did what her president told her to do. When the president tells you to storm the Capitol and lay waste (literally) to it, it’s legal. Right?
I have a few small or chaotic airline stories but my wife has the best. She lived in Suva, Fiji for three years long before the web and cell phones and all that stuff. There was a Fiji wide radio station that covered all the islands and every once in a while they would break into a song and announce, “Would someone in Rotuma please turn the lights on for the landing strip? A plane has been circling for the past 15 minutes and needs to land.”
@de stijl: Green is from GA. Occasional contributor to OTB, Michael Bailey has the, um, honor of having her as his Representative.
@Kathy: Of course.
@HarvardLaw92: Indeed.
@gVOR08:
It might only be a turbo prop, but “Piaggio” still has a good bourgeois ring to it.
@Kathy:
And for a group it can be cheaper than scheduled airlines. And far more convenient. It’s fairly common practice.
@MarkedMan: Decades ago,my Peace Corps buddies and I flew a DC-3 from Suva to Nandi and back. An adventure that as an old man, would not want to repeat.
@dmichael:
Air travel in the first world is easy.
Air travel in the second or third world is a bit of a gamble. Is it airworthy? Is the pilot competent? You do not know unless you board.
5 outta 5 for Air Tim / Tim Air, whatever. He knew how to deal with toxic tourists. I was honored to be his pawn.
Best thing I took away from that trip. And we abandoned Port Antonio for a tiny village at the eastern point of Jamaica to to witness big waves.
That was an expensive cab ride there and back, but totally worth it. Big waves and big sky. We bailed on Port Antonio and skedaddled to a tiny village on the most eastern point of Jamaica just to witness the waves. Massive and thudding. Not a great hotel selection, but such a cool place to be and watch nature. I got no problem with insects or reptiles, but rodents creep me out. I abided, barely.
Tim is so my dude.
@Mister Bluster: I’m not in the US. Unless they’re dangerous or a flight risk, the criminal will get a polite letter a few weeks later when and where they should present themselves for their incarceration. 🙂
@de stijl:
@MarkedMan:
I enjoy stories of small airlines in odd markets, perhaps in part because I don’t ever expect to fly on any of them.
The closest I can come is the one time I flew to Reynosa, just across the border from McAllen, TX. There were two daily commercial flights, one in the morning and one early in the evening. In between, the terminal closed.
@gVOR08:
I should bring up another little-known factor. The business jet companies often have to reposition their planes from one airport to another. Just as often, they have no passengers for such flights. These are known as “empty legs.”
So sometimes they sell places for empty legs, and they can be cheaper than normal (may not include any service onboard, though).
The routes can be pretty random.
@ImProPer:
A Piaggio was Alexander Onassis’s personal plane. He died when it crashed.
@ImProPer:
Bombardier makes good planes. The 1 across 2 27 passenger seat puddle-jumpers.
Embraer out of Brazil makes a very similar plane.
Bombardier also makes snowmobiles.
I remember taking a puddle-jumper from one island of Hawaii to another. We were just about to touch down when suddenly the pilot took off again. As we circled around for another try, he announced laconically: “there was a cow on the runway.”
Where I grew up in upstate New York, it was quite common to send a van running up and down the runway to chase off the deer in the winter. The runway lights would melt the snow surrounding each, which meant available grass…..
@Just nutha ignint cracker:
Her better argument would have been: I’m not a seditious insurrectionist, I was just there to make a commercial for my practice:
Then, she turned to the camera and added:
source: https://www.thedailybeast.com/jenna-ryan-texas-real-estate-agent-who-flew-to-dc-on-private-jet-arrested-in-capitol-riots
See? Commercial. That’s all. TOTALLY tax deductible.
Still, I don’t think that her “life coach” practice will be doing well after this… Unless she takes what she learns to prepare the Karen crowd for unexpected (and CERTAINLY undeserved) prison sentences.
@Liberal Capitalist:
I poked around for a few more minutes yesterday to see what I could find out about her radio show (which I think is actually about real estate) but noted at one point that she apparently teaches classes to realtors about using social media, which is just priceless.
Don’t hold your breath waiting for a pardon, kiddo. There are lots of folks in line ahead of you and only so many hours in the day.
@Liberal Capitalist:
@Steven L. Taylor:
I could be a life coach:
1. Don’t fuck up
2. You will fuck up, so own up asap and act responsibly thereafter
Y’all owe my $39.95. $24.95 if you are a Patreon sponsor.
Patreon sponsors get better advice btw.
@JDM:
Peirwest Aviation has a turbo prop but reports $76.000 in annual income and has 2 employees.
What this says to me is it’s a company plane for one company or user which manages to get some cash from an occasional charter customer. $76k a year isn’t close to maintaining that bird, not even enough to make the payments (assuming standard financing…which everybody except the truly exceptional wealthy does for the tax-breaks available. Not even enough to maintain 2 people it says are employees. Shell company.
@SC_Birdflyte:
Ya know, right?
Think of the logic behind her request:
1) The president is impeached, and may go to trial in the senate for sedition.
2) Denying sedition (of course), he absolutely does not believe that HIS words were the cause of the insurrection and the results.
3) In fact, I am sure that in his mind he has NOTHING to do with it. And is in his mind that HE
is completely the victim.
So SHE is asking for an pardon because HE sent them into the breach on HIS behalf??? And she is…? And she can do what for Trump?
So, why, in any possible world, would he EVER grant a pardon to people that said they were attacking Congress based on HIS words?
Imagine how that would look in an impeachment trial… it would be nothing short of an admission of guilt on his part.
She is toast.
Everything that Trump touches, even if it is only a passing of his shadow, dies.