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Steven L. Taylor
About Steven L. Taylor
Steven L. Taylor is a Professor Emeritus of Political Science and former College of Arts and Sciences Dean. His main areas of expertise include parties, elections, and the institutional design of democracies. His most recent book is the co-authored A Different Democracy: American Government in a 31-Country Perspective. He earned his Ph.D. from the University of Texas and his BA from the University of California, Irvine. He has been blogging since 2003 (originally at the now defunct Poliblog). Follow Steven on Twitter and/or BlueSky.

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  1. Sleeping Dog says:

    Foreign Spies to Team Trump:

    If you’re running the security directorate of a hostile nation, savor this moment. It’s never been easier to steal secrets from the United States government. Can you even call it stealing when it’s this simple? The Trump administration has unlocked the vault doors, fired half of the security guards and asked the rest to roll pennies. Walk right in. Take what you want. This is the golden age.

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  2. CSK says:

    @Sleeping Dog:

    Well, that was scathing.

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  3. Jen says:

    @Sleeping Dog: Yep. I’ve been yelling about this since DOGE started its rampage, which ALSO weakens our defenses.

    These people don’t know what they are doing and the people who voted for them don’t understand what’s at stake. It’s a very dangerous combination.

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  4. Min says:

    @Sleeping Dog:

    Well, that’s certainly something.

    It’s too bad that most ppl who support this administration can’t bother to understand what’s could be the cost of all of this.

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  5. Bill Jempty says:

    When Dear Wife and I got back home from India, she said to me no more traveling for a while. I agreed with those sentiments.

    Guess what? DW learned over a month ago that her baby sister is going to Istanbul at Easter and now my lovely Filipina wife has changed her mind and wantsUS to make that trip also.

    I’d like to see Istanbul but not right now. Since I don’t have the remotest Istanbul set story idea, a trip there is going to be interesting but tiring and non-productive also. Nevertheless DW wants me to book seats on the same flight her sister is traveling on. I’m hoping all that Turkish Airlines plane’s business and 1st class seats are booked.

    Other stuff

    DW and I gave our almost 18 year old kitty to our 89 year neighbor Miriam. Miriam, who adores Misay, took care of our cat when we traveled to Australia and New Zealand last year and India this year. Miriam, whose own cat died about a year and a half ago, was lonely and frequently visiting to see how our kitty was doing. With me and DW’s extensive travel plans, we regrettably decided to let Misay be adopted. She’ll be in good hands but I will miss her.

    From Jan 1 2015 to Jan 2024 I self-published operating as an S corp. Beginning last year I went traditional publishing. My s corp still operated for almost 6 months of 2024 before all my books were taken over. I miss the days I would wake up and check book sales and KDP reads.

    March 15th every year is the deadline day for filing* an S corp’s tax return. The original plan was to shudder my S corp and dissolve the corporation between 3-15 and April 30 when the Florida annual report was due. I have chosen not to. Later or more probably sooner, I’m going to have a literary estate created. The S corp could be useful for that. I really need to get together with a attorney experienced with all of this. That probably won’t happen till I get back from Istanbul.

    April 1st marks the 11th anniversary of me selling books to make a living. Due to having a small internet following, I made $300 that first month. I never expected to be where I am now. Where will I be in another 11 years? I’m betting six feet under.

    Yesterday I watched a 1993 Law & Order episode with Daniel Dae Kim in it and today’s viewing is a late 1960’s episode of ‘The FBI’ with Jeff Bridges in it.

    I’m still writing, playing strat-o-matic baseball, and driving my wife nuts.

    *- Besides book writing and working as a nurse/radiology technician, I did seasonal tax work for many years. Learning how to do a 1120-S isn’t really very hard.

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  6. charontwo says:

    How Signal works:

    JPG

    (A discussion of how the relevant Signal chat was poorly run from an OPSEC view).

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  7. SC_Birdflyte says:

    The blame game in the Signal fiasco is spreading faster than an Outback wildfire. The big question is, Will Waltz be the sole fall guy or is Alky Pete Hegseth in danger?

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  8. charontwo says:

    @SC_Birdflyte:

    Diverting attention from the rest of the current news, tariffs etc.

    A window into how the Trump regime functions, operates, who the players are and their status etc.

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  9. Scott says:

    First it was Rodrigo Duterte.

    Today, 12 March 2025, Mr Rodrigo Roa Duterte (“Mr Duterte”), born on 28 March 1945, was surrendered to the custody of the International Criminal Court (ICC or “the Court”). He was arrested by the authorities of the Republic of the Philippines (“the Philippines”) in accordance with an arrest warrant issued by Pre-Trial Chamber I (“the Chamber”) for charges of murder as a crime against humanity.

    Now Jair Bolsonaro.

    Former Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro will stand trial for allegedly conspiring to overthrow the government after he lost a 2022 election, the Supreme Court ruled on Wednesday, moving swiftly in a case that could reshape the political landscape.
    A five-judge panel decided unanimously to put Bolsonaro on trial. If found guilty in the court proceedings expected later this year, Bolsonaro could face a long prison sentence, isolating the far-right firebrand who has avoided naming a political heir.

    Is this a hopeful pattern? Can other authoritarians/political criminals be next?

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  10. Scott says:

    @Paul L.: The use of qualified immunity should be greatly restricted.

    Judge: No qualified immunity for Harris County jail deputies in lawsuit over inmate’s diabetes death

    Two detention officers working in the Harris County jail unit where a diabetic man died in his cell after not receiving insulin for days are not immune from being sued, a U.S. district judge ruled.

    The two guards, Deputies Charley Lauder and Elizabeth Garcia, aren’t protected by qualified immunity and will remain in a lawsuit filed by the family of Matthew Shelton, a 28-year-old man who died in March 2022, the judge ruled. More than a dozen other guards sued by Shelton’s family have sought to be dismissed on the basis of qualified immunity, the legal theory that often protects government employees from being sued for violating a person’s constitutional rights.

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  11. Sleeping Dog says:

    @Paul L.:

    Good question, what is your analysis?

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  12. Charley in Cleveland says:

    There’s a reason it is called qualified immunity. It is not *immunity* per se; it shields police (and other political subdivision employees) from personal liability if they make a mistake on the job UNLESS there is the kind of gross negligence or recklessness that, in essence, puts the conduct outside the scope of the job. E.g., it isn’t a cop’s “job” to beat a prisoner senseless (or kneel on his neck for 9 minutes), and doing so lifts that QUALIFIED immunity shield.

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  13. Scott says:

    NATO clarifies comments that four missing US soldiers had died during training in Lithuania

    NATO on Wednesday clarified comments that Secretary-General Mark Rutte made earlier in the day, when he suggested that four U.S. soldiers who went missing while training in Lithuania had died, even though the U.S. Army said their fate was not yet confirmed.

    “The search is ongoing,” NATO said in a statement posted on X. “We regret any confusion about remarks @SecGenNATO delivered on this today. He was referring to emerging news reports & was not confirming the fate of the missing, which is still unknown.”

    The U.S. Army said the Hercules armored vehicle the four U.S. soldiers were in during a training exercise had been found submerged in a body of water. It said recovery efforts were underway by U.S. Army and Lithuanian Armed Forces and civilian agencies.

    Not much news on this but sounds tragic.

    On the other hand…

    Asked Wednesday evening by reporters if he had been briefed about the missing soldiers, President Donald Trump said, “No, I haven’t.”

    Really?

  14. Kathy says:

    Here’s a defense for the Signal blunder:

    It wasn’t Waltz who added a journalist to the super-secret, unclassified war planning, it was one of the Russian hackers who’ve broken into his phone.

    See? they’re all completely innocent!

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  15. Charley in Cleveland says:

    @Kathy: Reminds me of the old legal defense: I’m not guilty because I wasn’t there, and if I was there it wasn’t trespassing because I was invited; and I never hit the guy because I wasn’t there, but if I did, it was self defense. Can I go now?

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  16. Tony W says:

    @Scott: It’s difficult to brief Trump on things like missing soldiers because all of the briefings have to be converted to comic book form, and they must include positive, uplifting media references to his name on every page.

    These things take time.

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  17. Scott says:

    Trump announces 25% tariffs on all foreign-made vehicles, certain auto parts

    President Trump made good on his promise to impose tariffs on foreign automakers, imposing 25% duties on all cars and light trucks not made in the United States, as well as “certain auto parts.”

    The 25% tariffs are set to take effect April 2 and add to existing tariffs. The White House estimates that $100 billion in annual duties will be collected.

    So the Democratic Party message should be: “President Trump raises taxes on hardworking Americans to fund tax cuts for the wealthy”. No more, no less. But no, we’ll get arcane (but accurate) messages on trade, protections, economics, etc.

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  18. Mister Bluster says:

    I would suggest that this Red Decoder Screen is at least as secure as Signal and won’t bust the budget much to the approval of President Musk and First Lady Donalda.

    $5 Pack of 8.

    These red screen decoders allows budding spies to write secret messages!
    The red-screen decoder works because some colors of ink are difficult to see through the red-screen decoder, specifically reds, oranges, yellows, and pinks. To write a secret message that can be read with a red-screen decoder, simply write your message in cool colors (that’s blue, purple, and green) with the letters spaced out. Then, fill in the spaces with random letters written in warm colors (that’s red, orange, or yellow). When you hold the red-decoder screen, the letters written in red, orange, yellow, and pink will disappear!

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  19. Bobert says:

    I have taken to placing call to my federal legislators twice or three times a week to file complaints against my representatives. (Actually call each of my reps three offices)

    Today’s complaint is that my rep is allowing Trump to usurp legislative prerogatives, by not objecting to the EO on voter registration. By the EO the executive has proscribed HIS rules for the states to conduct voter registrations, and ordered penalties for noncompliance. Noncompliance will adversely impact the state and its residents.

    Going to town halls, (nothing scheduled for the next six months) is ineffective. Street protests require significant coordination. But tying up the reps personnel and phone lines just might get the message across that this constituent is very angry.

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  20. Scott says:

    How Elon Musk’s SpaceX Secretly Allows Investment From China

    As a U.S. military contractor, SpaceX sees allowing Chinese ownership as fraught. But it will allow the investment if it comes through secrecy hubs like the Cayman Islands, court records say. “It is certainly a policy of obfuscation,” an expert said.

    Elon Musk’s aerospace giant SpaceX allows investors from China to buy stakes in the company as long as the funds are routed through the Cayman Islands or other offshore secrecy hubs, according to previously unreported court records.

  21. Charley in Cleveland says:

    @Paul L.: As usual, you seem to believe you’ve made a point without actually expressing the point you’re trying to make. Zadeh is a convoluted case on qualified immunity, so much so that the proudly Federalist Society Judge Willett felt the need to express his discomfort with finding that qualified immunity did in fact shield Texas Medical Board investigators who did a warrantless search of Dr. Zadeh’s medical records, even though that search violated the 4th amendment. The 5th Circuit’s decision is part of a muddled federal court approach to qualified immunity that the Supreme Court has contributed to, and will eventually have to sort out. Willett’s quote would lead some to believe that he had dissented in Zadeh, but he didn’t. But of course you already knew that. Didn’t you?

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  22. Scott says:

    @Mister Bluster: I read this and thought of you.

    A University, a Rural Town and Their Fight to Survive Trump’s War on Higher Education

    I grew up off a gravel road near a town of 60 people, a place where cows outnumber people.

    Southern Illinois University, just 40 miles north, opened up my world. I saw my first concerts here, debated big ideas in giant lecture halls and shared dorms with people who looked like no one I’d ever met. Two of my most influential professors came from opposite ends of the political spectrum.

    SIU was the only four-year college within reach when I enrolled here in the fall of 2000 — both in miles and cost. And it set me on the path to who I would become. That’s why I accepted a job here teaching journalism two years ago. It is still a place of opportunity, but I was struck by how fragile it had become — a fraction of its former size, grappling with relentless enrollment and budget concerns.

    Now, it faces new threats. The Trump administration has proposed cuts to research and labs across the country; targeted certain schools with diversity, equity and inclusion programs; and signed an executive order to eliminate the U.S. Department of Education, which manages student loans. State officials estimate that proposed funding reductions from the National Institutes of Health alone would cost SIU about $4.5 million.

    In addition, conservative activists are on the lookout for what they deem “woke” depravity at universities. This is true at SIU as well, where students received emails from at least one conservative group offering to pay them to act as informants or write articles to help “expose the liberal bias that occurs on college campuses across the nation.”

    It is a informative long form article that we don’t get very often.

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  23. Sleeping Dog says:

    Chris Pappas will run for open NH Senate seat.

    https://www.axios.com/2025/03/27/chris-pappas-new-hampshire-senate

    Currently 1st district congress critter (district is +2 R), considered a moderate on most issues and gets a lot of support from small business owners. Gay and supportive of social justice initiatives but not a leader, generally his positions conform to the center of NH politics. He’ll be tough to beat in the general and it will take an R with the recognition. and base of a Sununu or Ayote. (current Gov) to beat him.

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  24. Daryl says:
  25. Sleeping Dog says:

    Yes, the administration is a security shitshow, no two ways about it. Be prepared for future episodes. Best bet for the next big security scandal, will be the Starlink that’s been installed over the WH. If Ruskies and/or the Chinese haven’t hacked Starlink already, they are now working on it. We could be lucky and some enterprising 16 yo might do it first and then brag about it on tik toc

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  26. Monala says:

    I saw the post on proving citizenship and voting pretty late last night, so I wanted to share this here. There was discussion about what it takes to obtain identity documents. When I lost all my documents in a house fire several years ago, I was able to replace them all online. I had to verify my identity by answering questions about previous addresses, employment, and finances. My documents were then mailed to me.

    I did have to go in person to replace my daughter’s documents because as a minor, she didn’t have a work/life/financial history to verify. To verify her identity, the various agencies accepted proof of my identity plus school and medical records for my daughter.

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  27. Kathy says:

    Large language AI bots are getting out of hand.

    It’s one thing to have an unobtrusive Copilot button or Aria icon in Edge and Opera. it’s a different one to have small popups and other nagware urging use of the AI agent in Acrobat. and the latest update of Whatsapp* has an “Ask Meta AI icon next to the new message icon.

    Granted these bots might be useful summarizing a document, in the case of Acrobat, but do they have to be so pushy? and if you need help composing messages in a chat app, you must be among the Signal Gang of incompetents.

    *I don’t like it, but it’s the message app everyone in the office uses.

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  28. Monala says:

    @Monala: I should add that the one identity document I didn’t lose was my driver’s license. Just a few weeks earlier, my daughter had encouraged me to put my license inside my phone case, so I’d always have it with me. When we escaped the fire, we only had enough time to grab our phones. I can’t imagine how difficult it would have been in those early days if I didn’t have my license with me. One of the first things I did was went to the bank to get a new debit and credit card. I was then able to rent a car and get us a hotel room.

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  29. Jay L Gischer says:

    Welp, at least one guy who knows more than I do likes the whole “Deep State” conspiracy theory behind Signalgate.

  30. Mister Bluster says:

    @Scott:..SIU-Home of the Dawgs

    Thanks for the plug!
    As I’m sure I have mentioned in the past I arrived in Carbondale in 1968 to attend SIU and finish college. After five more years of allegedly attending classes I dropped out with no degree other than a major in Sex and Drugs and a minor in Rock and Roll.
    Fifty seven years later I still live in Southern Illinois about four miles south of the SIU campus in Makanda Township.
    If I could I would conjure up a Wizard who would entice about 10,000 High School graduates to attend SIU for the Fall semester 2025. Fall semester 2024 saw an increase in enrollment to 11,790. A 3.8% increase over Fall semester of 2023.
    I have never met Molly Parker although I am familiar with her reporting.
    Point of information. The photo captioned:
    “A mix of empty businesses and city buildings seen in a window reflection in downtown Carbondale. The university is the largest employer in the region.”
    was shot from inside a storefront recently vacated by Phoenix Cycles. Phoenix Cycles did not go out of business. It relocated to another downtown storefront nearby.

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  31. Kathy says:

    Flight bookings between Canada and the US are down 70%

    In the future, scholars will argue about the cause for nanoseconds.

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  32. charontwo says:

    @Jay L Gischer:

    Maybe not

    Jeffrey Goldberg Dismissing Yemeni Deaths Is Why He Was in the Group Chat to Begin With

    As someone who launders pro-Israel, pro-US government talking points for a living, Goldberg being on Trump officials’ speed dial makes perfect sense—and is everything wrong with US media.

    Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor-in-chief of the Atlantic, has been at the center of a national story after he was “inadvertently” included in a group Signal chat with administration officials as they planned a deadly bombing in Yemen. Much of the coverage has focused on the mishandling of military secrets, rather than the impact of the bombings themselves, targeting the poorest country in the Middle East, which the United States has helped bomb and blockade for over a decade. Goldberg is not just an observer: He is contributing to this disregard for Yemeni lives, and his dismissiveness sheds light on why he was an administration media contact to begin with.

    In an interview that aired on March 26, Deepa Fernandes, one of the hosts of NPR’s “Here and Now,” interviewed Goldberg about the “group chat heard ’round the world” that included Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, National Security Adviser Mike Waltz, and Vice President JD Vance. During one portion of the interview, Fernandes did something few other journalists are doing. She asked Goldberg about the Yemeni people who were killed in the bombing, which took place on March 15.

    Deepa Fernandes: There’s little talk of the fact that this attack killed 53 people, as we mentioned, including women and children. The civilian toll of these American strikes. Are we burying the lead here?

    Jeffrey Goldberg: Well, those, unfortunately, those aren’t confirmed numbers. Those are provided by the Houthis and the Houthi health ministry, I guess. So we don’t know that for sure. Yeah, I mean, obviously we’re, well, I don’t know if we’re burying the lead, because obviously huge breaches in national security and safety of information, that’s a very, very important story, obviously. And one of the reasons, you know, it’s a very important story is that the Republicans themselves consider that to be an important story, when it’s Hillary Clinton doing the deed, right? So that’s obviously hugely important.

    But yeah, I think that covering what’s going on in Yemen, the Arab and Iran backed terrorist organization, the Houthis, that are that are firing missiles at Israel and disrupting global shipping and occupy half of Yemen, and all kinds of other things in the US, you know, and the Trump administration criticizing the Biden’s response and Europe wants Trump to do more. I mean, yeah, there’s, there’s a huge story in Yemen. But Yemen is, as you know, is one of the more inaccessible places for Western journalists. So maybe this becomes like a substitute for a discussion of Yemen. I don’t know.

    Goldberg not only seems unconcerned about the death toll and eager to cast doubt on its veracity, but he also appears unprepared for the question. It’s as though it didn’t occur to him that the substance of the Signal exchange itself—the bombing—might be a legitimate topic of conversation, and he seems eager to move on.

    This is despite the fact that there is evidence in the exchange itself that the United States hit a civilian site in the bombing. Waltz wrote in the Signal chat that the US military had bombed a residential building. “The first target—their top missile guy—we had positive ID of him walking into his girlfriend’s building and it’s now collapsed,” Waltz wrote in the chat, to which JD Vance replied: “Excellent.”

    Yet, as Nick Turse noted for The Intercept, “So far, however, there has been little focus on the specifics of the attack, much less discussion of the fact that one of the targets of the March 15 strike was a civilian residence.”

    More at the link

  33. Sleeping Dog says:

    @Jay L Gischer:

    Way to complicated. Walz met Goldberg publically at least once, at an event that Goldberg acted as host. There are pictures of the them together. Walz as a congress critter on the intelligence beat and Goldberg a reporter on intelligence matters exchange info. How Goldberg got invited to the Houthi group is another question.

    Perhaps it was that fellow on the grassy knoll.

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  34. Jay L Gischer says:

    @Sleeping Dog: Perhaps you missed the jocular discussion yesterday of “maybe this was some NSA hacker who hacked Walz’ phone and added JG that way, just to make the point” I still think that is highly, highly unlikely.

    Walz is clearly completely befuddled by this. And of course, Laura Ingraham roasted him for even having JG’s contact info.

    Meanwhile, the whole “we’re gonna brief Elon Musk on war plans against China” thing was clearly leaked by someone in the Pentagon. There is no other explanation.

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  35. Rob1 says:

    Wait-a-minute. Wasn’t the election a “mandate?”

    Trump withdraws Rep. Elise Stefanik’s nomination for UN ambassador, citing tight GOP House margin

    https://apnews.com/article/elise-stefanik-united-nations-ambassador-trump-96ef705d7498f080f9f399416b647f99

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  36. Rob1 says:

    The myth of a nationally self-contained manufacturing economy gets a shot at the big time. Welcome back to the 1950’s! Now if we could just find a war somewhere, or some place to invade.

    Trump’s latest auto tariffs explained: What car buyers should know this year

    It would be impossible for auto manufacturers to reroute the sourcing overnight of thousands of parts that are imported to the U.S., and uprooting their assembly operations would take years. The network of auto manufacturing and supply are planned and developed over a span of years, and the industry may suffer collateral damage in Trump’s escalating trade wars.

    https://apnews.com/article/trump-auto-industry-tariffs-imports-prices-car-buyers-2315fed0a166d37b1a88c2d375d5553a

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  37. Sleeping Dog says:

    @Rob1:

    She’s described in the article as “former congresswoman,” if so that’s already an empty seat. Me suspects that AP will issue a correction.

    Ah the Times get’s it right. She gave up her leadership and committee assignments but didn’t resign

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  38. just nutha says:

    @Sleeping Dog: @Jay L Gischer: Could we start exiting more closely to avoid mixing “Walz” and “Waltz?”

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  39. Scott says:

    @Rob1: I’m waiting for a Five year plan or a Great Leap Forward from this administration. Nothing better than a centrally planned economy.

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  40. Jay L Gischer says:

    @just nutha: Fair point!

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  41. wr says:

    @charontwo: Yes, the Trump administration is bombing Yemen, but it’s really all Jeffrey Goldberg’s fault because he wrote about the important story he was pulled into and not about what this substacker wants him to write about.

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  42. al Ameda says:

    @Scott:

    So the Democratic Party message should be: “President Trump raises taxes on hardworking Americans to fund tax cuts for the wealthy”. No more, no less. But no, we’ll get arcane (but accurate) messages on trade, protections, economics, etc.

    Depressingly accurate.
    Democrats are very poor at messaging, and … they let Republicans define them at every turn.

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  43. JohnSF says:

    @Kathy:
    One thing AI does seem to have been very useful for is improving the performance of OCR software for digitizing rather complex text into PDFs with “text behind image”.

    We do quite a bit of this with old books and journals not available in native electronic form.
    About a dozen years ago the performance was very patchy, and involved a lot of manual editing and verification effort.
    The current versions with algorithms trained by AI a massive more effective at the task

  44. dazedandconfused says:

    @Scott:

    Looking at the pics, another case of “Never test the depth of water with your vehicle.” People die every year assuming that pond over the “road” has to, it just HAS to, be shallow.

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  45. Min says:

    “Greenland visit cancelled after locals refuse to welcome Usha Vance
    The US Second Lady had been due to spend several days in Greenland on a ‘cultural visit.’

    Danish broadcaster TV2 has reported that part of Mrs Vance’s visit to the capital of Nuuk was cancelled after US representatives failed to find any locals who wanted to greet the Second Lady.”

    So, how will the MAGA spin this? Seems pretty obvious that Greenland doesn’t want to “become” part of the US.

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/greenland-visit-cancelled-after-locals-refuse-to-welcome-usha-vance-391306/

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  46. Daryl says:

    So the shark has been jumped.
    Bondi actually went to, “but her emails!!!”

    “If you want to talk about classified information, talk about what was at Hillary Clinton’s home that she was trying to [wipe],” Bondi said.

    Un-flippin-believable.

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  47. Kathy says:

    @JohnSF:

    I did some OCR the other day on a document. I wish I could say how it turned out, but just as I was done, we got the same document in the original Word format.

  48. charontwo says:

    @wr:

    I took a much different read as the point of the piece, I read it as an explanation of how and why Goldberg was deliberately read into being a part of and thus privy to the Signal conversation.

    ETA: And, also, that there was no “whistleblowing” by some hypothetical “Deep State,” public revelation of the conversation was unintended by the administration.

  49. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @Rob1: Indeed it was. Sadly for your side, someone in the Trump circle has figured out that eroding the House majority also erodes the strength of the “mandate.” Can’t win ’em all.

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  50. Jen says:

    @Daryl: That is insane. Just nuts. Good lord that is some chutzpah.

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  51. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @Min:

    So, how will the MAGA spin this?

    Easy, emphasize how rude it is for people to refuse to accept a “good will tour”-ist.

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  52. CSK says:

    @Jen:

    It’s a desperation ploy.

  53. Gustopher says:

    @Daryl: I have the utmost respect for everyone in the room who did not groan, but wanted to.

  54. Rob1 says:

    @Min:

    “Greenland visit cancelled after locals refuse to welcome Usha Vance
    The US Second Lady had been due to spend several days in Greenland on a ‘cultural visit.’

    Damn. Now we’re gonna invade for sure.

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  55. just nutha says:

    @Rob1: Maybe not. They can try saying that they didn’t believe that Trump would send a [racial epithet, deleted]. That could work.

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