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Steven L. Taylor
About Steven L. Taylor
Steven L. Taylor is a Professor Emeritus of Political Science and former College of Arts and Sciences Dean. His main areas of expertise include parties, elections, and the institutional design of democracies. His most recent book is the co-authored A Different Democracy: American Government in a 31-Country Perspective. He earned his Ph.D. from the University of Texas and his BA from the University of California, Irvine. He has been blogging since 2003 (originally at the now defunct Poliblog). Follow Steven on Twitter and/or BlueSky.

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  1. Scott says:

    Was on Paramount + (courtesy of my niece) watching Star Trek: Strange New Worlds and realized that South Park was available. I hadn’t seen South Park for probably decades. Pulled it up and watched latest episode involving demonic dolls and Trump and Satan. I haven’t laugh so hard in a long time. Rude, crude, obscene.

    I’m so ashamed.

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  2. Scott says:

    A little bit of history.

    Harlem Hellfighters ‘who faced the enemy head-on’ receive Congressional Gold Medal

    The Harlem Hellfighters — an African-American regiment that fought longer on the frontlines of World War I than any other Army unit its size — were honored Wednesday with the Congressional Gold Medal more than a century after the conflict ended.

    Nicknamed “hellfighters” for their tenaciousness on the battlefield, the 369th Infantry Regiment fought for 191 days in continuous combat in France, without losing ground or a single soldier captured, according to Johnson and other speakers at the Gold Medal ceremony.

    The regiment had about 4,500 Black American soldiers who fought under French command during World War I and experienced about 1,500 casualties.

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  3. Mikey says:

    @Scott: Watch the other episodes from this season. You will not be disappointed.

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  4. Scott says:

    August jobs report shows US labor market continues dramatic summer slowdown

    The US labor market continues to slow.

    The August jobs report released Friday by the the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) showed there were just 22,000 new jobs added to the economy last month, far fewer than forecast and the latest sign that the US labor market slowed notably through the summer. The unemployment rate rose to 4.3% in August.

  5. Scott says:

    Seems the Supreme Court is worried:

    Amy Coney Barrett: Reports of a constitutional crisis have been greatly exaggerated

    Is the country in a constitutional crisis? Not according to Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett.

    “Look, I think the Constitution is alive and well,” Barrett said Thursday at an event to promote her new book, Listening to the Law. She cast aside concerns by legal scholars over the ongoing clash between the Trump administration and the courts.

    “I don’t know what a constitutional crisis would look like,” Barrett, who was appointed by Trump in 2020, added. “I think that our country remains committed to the rule of law. I think we have functioning courts. I think a constitutional crisis — we would clearly be in one if the rule of law crumbles. But that is not the place where we are.”

    Brett Kavanaugh on why Supreme Court rulings can be so cryptic

    Justice Brett Kavanaugh acknowledged Thursday that while the Supreme Court’s decisions are supposed to be the last word, that word isn’t always so clear.

    Kavanaugh’s remarks to a judicial conference here came as the high court faces mounting criticism from legal scholars and even some lower-court judges for issuing vague edicts, with little or no explanation, on the court’s emergency docket — particularly in cases that challenge Trump administration policies.

    Kavanaugh appeared to be responding to grumbling from some judges that the Supreme Court’s brief rulings on a slew of emergency appeals filed by the Trump administration have often provided little guidance to lower-court judges about how to apply those rulings to similar disputes.

    A report published by NBC News on Thursday quoted anonymous district court judges asserting that the terse emergency decisions have led to the judges being unfairly accused of defying the Supreme Court and may even encourage threats against the judges.

    That report:

    In rare interviews, federal judges criticize Supreme Court’s handling of Trump cases

    Federal judges are frustrated with the Supreme Court for increasingly overturning lower court rulings involving the Trump administration with little or no explanation, with some worried the practice is undermining the judiciary at a sensitive time.

    Some judges believe the Supreme Court, and in particular Chief Justice John Roberts, could be doing more to defend the integrity of their work as President Donald Trump and his allies harshly criticize those who rule against him and as violent threats against judges are on the rise.

    As well they should be. Roger Taney went against the zeitgeist of a nation and look what happened there.

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  6. becca says:

    Project Veritas apparently outed the Trump DOJ and their intention to redact all conservative or GOP names and leave any dems or liberals in the Epstein files before releasing them. They caught this fellow with a dating app.
    The DOJ gave credence to the story in their response, admitting the blabbermouth is, in fact, part of the dept.
    When James O’Keefe, a well known right wing hack and fraudster, is aiding and abetting the resistance it’s just more proof this is the weirdest timeline ever.

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  7. Scott says:

    So much for love letters.

    How a Top Secret SEAL Team 6 Mission Into North Korea Fell Apart

    A group of Navy SEALs emerged from the ink-black ocean on a winter night in early 2019 and crept to a rocky shore in North Korea. They were on a top secret mission so complex and consequential that everything had to go exactly right.

    The objective was to plant an electronic device that would let the United States intercept the communications of North Korea’s reclusive leader, Kim Jong-un, amid high-level nuclear talks with President Trump.

    The mission had the potential to provide the United States with a stream of valuable intelligence. But it meant putting American commandos on North Korean soil — a move that, if detected, not only could sink negotiations but also could lead to a hostage crisis or an escalating conflict with a nuclear-armed foe.

    It was so risky that it required the president’s direct approval.

    For the operation, the military chose SEAL Team 6’s Red Squadron — the same unit that killed Osama bin Laden. The SEALs rehearsed for months, aware that every move needed to be perfect. But when they reached what they thought was a deserted shore that night, wearing black wet suits and night-vision goggles, the mission swiftly unraveled.

    A North Korean boat appeared out of the dark. Flashlights from the bow swept over the water. Fearing that they had been spotted, the SEALs opened fire. Within seconds, everyone on the North Korean boat was dead.

    The SEALs retreated into the sea without planting the listening device.

    The 2019 operation has never been publicly acknowledged, or even hinted at, by the United States or North Korea. The details remain classified and are being reported here for the first time. The Trump administration did not notify key members of Congress who oversee intelligence operations, before or after the mission. The lack of notification may have violated the law.

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  8. Kathy says:

    Hoping this is the most obscene thing I’ll read today.

    I can’t even bring myself to say what’s in it. I’m that angry and disgusted.

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  9. Slugger says:

    @Scott: The problem is fixable. These reports come from the Department of Labor. Labor is a Woke term invented by a Democrat. We will rename it the Department of Work! This will fix everything!

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  10. @Scott: I would recommend all of this current season.

    It is the kind of satire and commentary we all need right now.

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  11. Kathy says:

    I completely forgot there was a game yesterday. A look at the stats indicates the Dallas Joneses put up a fierce defense, but stats are not that reliable for judging a game.

    On the last Ancient Geeks podcast, the hosts joked derisively abut a TOS ep, The Alternative Factor. That was in the queue yesterday.

    It was worse than bad. It was sooooooooooo bad I questioned my need to keep watching this show. Literally nothing about it worked. Not the villain, not the crew of the Enterprise, not how they worked out the solution, not the solution, not the premise, not one effing thing.

    Next up should be The City on the Edge of Forever, which consistently ranks as one of the best Trek episodes of all time. Naturally, I’ll skip it.

    Actually, I’ve watched it several times, most recently a few months ago. Seeing it again now it would feel repetitive.

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  12. Kathy says:

    Remember Amazon’s Kuiper Project? I know. It’s hard to remember something you’ve never even heard of. It’s Amazon’s attempt to offer satellite based internet access all over the world.

    Turns out they’ve launched 100 satellites already, out of about 3,200 that will be necessary. Still, they say they’ll launch service commercially by the end of the year (narrator: almost certainly probably not). And yesterday JetBlue announced it will offer Kuiper internet on some of its fleet (currently they offer a different model of satellite based ISP on all their fleet, free of charge).

    One odd thing is that about half the satellites were launched by their competitor, Xtarlink, via their launch company subsidiary XpaceS.

    Anyway, Amazon expects to get the full satellite network up some time in the near to far future, as soon as Blue Origin manages to launch many more New Glenn heavy lift rockets (so far, they’ve managed one). I estimate between 2 and 200 years.

    There’s no word on pricing yet, but Amazon implies they will sell it cheaper than Xtarlink. That’s pretty much a given at the start, as they will want to sign up new customers, and maybe strip away some from the established company. But that’s before the service is enshitified. No word at all on how that will go, especially if, like Xtarlink, it winds up subsidizing the launch company.

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  13. Rob1 says:

    A little bit of comic relief where we can get it. Spinal Tap returns!

    ‘Our songs last three minutes but they feel like an hour’: the return of Spinal Tap – an exclusive that goes up to 11!

    “The Belgian beer is very good,” offers Nigel Tufnel, the lead guitarist who inspired legions. “And if you’ve had enough of them, you can pretty much speak the language.”

    And is it true what they say about women from Luxembourg?

    “The few women I met from Luxembourg, you’d do a gig and a girl comes up and says something to you, and you say something to her. And she says: ‘Not bloody likely,’” Tufnel says. “That’s mostly what it was.”

    “Well, there’s that Bertrand Russell quote about the Liechtenstein women,” Tufnel says. “But I can’t quote it, because it’s rude.” [..]

    The biggest shock is not that Tap reunited – Hope Faith, daughter of their former manager Ian, had the legal power to force them to do so – but that they allowed DiBergi to document it. The first film had painted them as buffoons – for years afterwards the band complained that he only showed the times they got lost on the way to the stage, never the times they made it. It seemed fitting that DiBergi’s own career should have stalled after his next film, Kramer vs Kramer vs Godzilla

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/sep/05/spinal-tap-exclusive-interview-return

    I’m in.

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  14. Rob1 says:

    @Scott:

    Pulled it up and watched latest episode involving demonic dolls and Trump and Satan. 

    Can MAGA censorship attempts be far behind?

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  15. Rob1 says:

    @Kathy:

    There’s no word on pricing yet, but Amazon implies they will sell it cheaper than Xtarlink. 

    Giving Bezos another income stream from our wallets with which to further dismantle our liberal democratic processes and boost the billionaire boys club.

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  16. Scott says:

    @Rob1: Well, they have this disclaimer that should protect them?

    I think they would relish an attempt.

    All characters and events in this show — even those based on real people — are entirely fictional. All celebrity voices are impersonated… poorly. The following language contains coarse language and due to its content it should not be viewed by everyone.

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  17. Gustopher says:

    @Scott: Fake news, fake numbers by a political hack! This BLS hoax created by Democrats. Need to fire the new BLS commissioner! Trump hire best people!

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  18. Kathy says:

    @Rob1:

    I looked into Xtarlink before the chief nazi went bonkers and then nazi. It was too expensive for home use, provided there were alternatives. Pretty much if you live in an urban area, or in just about any area with cable TV and landline phone service, you should be able to get broadband at far, far, far lower prices.

    It’s been a hit with airlines, as the price for them is reasonable and the service is usually available throughout most flights. I hear it’s a thing with rural users not covered with other existing service, too. past that, I’ve no clue (chief nazi’s fanboys of course). Maybe it makes sense for institutional settings with large bandwidth needs, assuming it delivers.

    I assume Lex Bezos’ service will be only slightly cheaper, and maybe only at first.

    On the other hand, Amazon is a huge conglomerate with lots of different services, not a glorified ISP with a space launch company. They may be able to consistently undercut Xtarlink, but only as long as the latter exists.

  19. Matt says:

    @Kathy: Something like 97% of the USA classifies as rural. About 20% of the population lives there. Wyoming for example has a population of under 600,000.

    I know people who game on starlink and it seems pretty decent. A lot better than the older satellite options that existed. When your options are dial up or starlink….

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  20. Rob1 says:

    @Scott:

    Well, they have this disclaimer that should protect them?

    So far, rules and regs (and norms) offer no restraint to this pathological administration. Sue! Sue! Sue!

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  21. Rob1 says:

    @Kathy:

    Hoping this is the most obscene thing I’ll read today.

    Tesla offers Elon Musk a trillion-dollar pay package

    Great. A trillion dollar psychopath.

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  22. Rob1 says:

    @Steven L. Taylor: Enjoy the respite while you can. This thin-skinned administration is bending entire networks to its will.

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  23. dazedandconfused says:

    @Scott:

    Pershing commanded the Buffalo Soldiers before the war and he knew that black men could and would fight. His problem? He could not deploy them in fighting units in WW1 alongside white US troops. The whites simply would not tolerate them. Had he kept them all, they could only be used in support roles and most were so designated, but the Hellfighters he recognized as quite capable of more…so he gave them to the French. Who, by their long colonial experience in Africa, were not driven to abject rage by the sight of a black man with a gun in his hands and were generally capable of viewing blacks as fully human.

    We award them more than a century later, but the French handed out Croix de Guerres to them while they were still alive.

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  24. JohnSF says:

    @dazedandconfused:
    The American attitude to African-American soldiers really puzzled both the British and French in both World Wars.
    That’s not to say that either Brits or French were “non racist”; they very often were, and are.
    But they did not have the default view that the “blacks must be kept in their place”.
    Both were entirely acustomed to non-white soldiers, who they regared as, trated as, and generally respected as soldiers in the cause.

    Family anecdotage time:
    An uncle of mine and a bunch of fellow Warwickshires were on leave from France in 1944, having a drink in a pub in Coventry with some African American soldiers who had been there before them. Some white Americans arrived and started getting unpleasant.
    The Warwickshires sergeant advised said white Americans to depart before they got clobbered.
    They departed.
    Sensible of them; it was inadvisable to f@ck with the Warwickshires.
    And probably not with said African-Americans, either.

    Similarly the French: the French African units were known to be among the best fighting units in Italy, for instance.
    The Germans in Italy feared them as opponents
    Second only to the Poles?
    Or perhaps the Gurkhas?
    Or the Sikhs?

    And the French generally had no problems with that.

    The peculiar thing is that in the US Civil War, by its end, some Black American units were known to be formidaly effective.
    It seems that post-Reconstruction American attitudes seem to have defaulted to accepting the “Southern perspective” on such things, in an attempt at reconciling the South to its defeat, perhaps?

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  25. Kathy says:

    Today at home the car started just fine, though an indicator labeled “maintenance required” turned on.

    Around 11 am I had to go out. The parking lot attendants tend to shuffle the cars around, as the lot holds more cars than it should. Mine had been moved, which is common. Only it wouldn’t start, giving all the symptoms of dead battery. I noticed instead of Park, the gear was in the Reverse position.

    Question, could this drain the battery?

    We got it started with jumper cables, but I decided it was better not to take it where I had to go. A coworker loaned me his. If it starts later today when I go home, I’m confident it will get me there. If it starts tomorrow, I will drive it to a battery shop (there is one very close to home). There they can test the battery and let me know whether I should change it or not. If it doesn’t start, this same shop will deliver the new battery and swap it.

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  26. dazedandconfused says:

    @JohnSF:

    Centuries of indoctrination that the blacks were not really humans did a lot of damage. The attitudes of WW1 were such that “Birth Of A Nation” was viewed not as a fantasy but as a documentary. A private viewing of that film by Woodrow Wilson in the White House was given a standing ovation, it is said, led by Woodrow himself.

    Not all the slave holders feared their slaves. Some, such as Jeff Davis, managed to create a family atmosphere, their slaves prospered in a limited way and they knew they had it good, comparatively. However, most of the owners ruled with cruelty, and for them fear of their slaves shaped them to the core.

    The majority of whites weren’t slave owners, of course. For them, there is another aspect, best put by LBJ, the political utility of giving people someone to punch down on which did (and still does) a lot of the heavy lifting in keeping this crap going:

    “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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  27. JohnSF says:

    @dazedandconfused:
    Yes.
    Wilson was an odd duck.
    On the one hand, an internationalist liberal, on the other an utter racist a@hole.
    My defualt is that that the Southerners were trying desperately to avoid the obvious conclusion that their forbears were utterly wrong, and therefore had to define African-Americans as inherently inferior, and somehow also dangerous.

    This was not someting Europeans were so prone to, perhaps, both because of the much lower numbers of persons of African descent in most of Europe (excepting port cities, and urban Portugal)
    And because Europeans often had, pragmatically, to deal with other “races” as they found them.
    And often did not categorise them as Americans do.

    I’ve remarked before, Americans often, and including “progressive liberal” types for some reason define persons from Middle East/North Africa as “non-white”.
    To many Europeans, historically, that would be absurd.
    Differentiating a bunch of identically clothed Turks, Greeks, Sicilians, Albanians, Andalucians, Syrians, Armenians etc would be rather difficult.

    The thing is, even US progressives/liberals seem to default to racial categorization; it seems to be legacy of the entire attitude of the early US: “whites”, “blacks”, “red men”, “brown”.
    And that diffrentiation is somehow natural and inevitable.

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  28. Kathy says:

    Latest from Ann Telnaes, Taco art at the Smithsonian

    So, my car did start on the first try. I need to find out whether the battery got drained somehow but is otherwise ok, or whether it’s not holding its charge well enough.

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  29. Gustopher says:

    @dazedandconfused:

    The majority of whites weren’t slave owners, of course.

    Keep in mind that the majority of whites are women and children.

    All of those claims than “only a tiny percentage of whites owned slaves” are eliding the fact that effectively it was families owning slaves, not individuals, and everyone in the family benefited.

    Slaves were also rented out, and there were lots of people who didn’t own their own slaves employed in the slaving industry (slave breakers, etc)

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  30. JohnSF says:

    @Gustopher:
    iirc even just counting adult males, the slave owning precentage of the South was only about 25% of that population group, at most.
    The most important social factor seems to have been that, for the Southern, and indeed larger American, white lower class, they could always identify as “non-slave”, or later “not Black”.
    I suspect this may have been a significant factor in the differnces between American and European mass-party politics.
    If you are pretty sure you are on the bottom of the pile, you may be inclined to different views to if you consider yourself to be inherently superior to, and yet threatened by, an obviously identifiable “other”.
    A smililar dynamic now seems to be perhaps emerging in European and British politics re minorities.
    But in the South there was also the issue of:
    “They were slaves; that would have been wrong and un-Christian if they were not inferior; therfore they MUST have been inferior, and therefore still must be, or else our forefathers must have been un-Christian a@@holes, which cannot be, because grandpa can’t have been an a@@hole, and was surely Christian. And so anything that contradicts grndapa not being an a@@hole is obviously wrong and un-American. So there. “
    QED

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