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Steven L. Taylor
About Steven L. Taylor
Steven L. Taylor is a Professor Emeritus of Political Science and former College of Arts and Sciences Dean. His main areas of expertise include parties, elections, and the institutional design of democracies. His most recent book is the co-authored A Different Democracy: American Government in a 31-Country Perspective. He earned his Ph.D. from the University of Texas and his BA from the University of California, Irvine. He has been blogging since 2003 (originally at the now defunct Poliblog). Follow Steven on Twitter and/or BlueSky.

Comments

  1. Scott says:

    I wonder how this will go over. Mucking around with the Social Security sign in.

    Just tried to sign in on the SS account. I know have to sign in with ID.Me rather my existing SS account name and password.

    Next screen:

    ID.me is not a government entity but is federally certified to provide secure digital identity verification to government agencies.

    ID.me is not under our control and may not follow SSA’s privacy, or accessibility policies located on SSA’s official website at https://www.ssa.gov/privacy.

    ID.me’s identity verification process may include facial recognition to match your face to the photo on your identity document. Collection and storage of personal and biometric information is subject to ID.me’s policies that include its terms of service, privacy policy, and biometric privacy policy.

    Great, a private organization controlling my access to SS.

    BTW. ID.Me will bombard you with sales pitches.

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  2. Scott says:

    @Scott: BTW. The facial recognition wouldn’t work for me. Couldn’t match the Driver’s License photo with the photo taken on the phone. This will go over well with a lot of old folks.

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  3. CSK says:

    Per NBC News, Trump won’t rule out running for a third term. He says “there are methods” for so doing.

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  4. Scott says:

    @Scott: Also, BTW. The best advice I’ve heard? If you have a problem with long holds on the phone for SS or other government services, go immediately call your Congress critters office and get their constituent services people on the phone. Direct pressure on Congress.

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  5. Bobert says:

    @CSK:
    Crazy, no?
    Heard someone speculate that he gets elected speaker of the House, subsequently hires a hit on the newly inaugurated president and VP, is sworn in as president, and becomes immune from criminal prosecution because he is the sitting president. Easy peasy.
    And the crowd (Republican Party) cheers!

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  6. Scott says:

    More demand for action from someone who doesn’t know what they are doing:

    SecDef gives DOD leaders less than two weeks to lay out cuts, changes

    Senior Defense Department leaders have less than two weeks to submit proposals to shrink and reorganize their commands, agencies, and departments, Secretary Pete Hegseth said in a memo that also proffered early-retirement and deferred-resignation deals to eligible civilian employees.

    The March 28 memo launches the latest phase of Hegseth’s rushed and rocky effort to shrink the department’s civilian workforce. When he took office in January, DOD employed about 760,000 civilians; within weeks, officials had announced plans to cut that number by five to eight percent.

    The memo, titled “Initiating the Workforce Acceleration and Recapitalization Initiative,” orders senior Pentagon leaders, combatant commanders, and defense agency and DOD field activity directors to each submit a proposed “future-state organizational chart” to the Pentagon’s personnel undersecretary, according to a March 29 DOD press release.

    “A summary of all those charts — which should include functional areas and consolidated management hierarchies with positional titles and counts clearly depicted — is due from USD(P&R) to the defense secretary no later than April 11, 2025,” the release said.

    This is typical nonsense from someone who has no experience running anything. Especially a large complex organization.

    So glad I’m retired.

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  7. charontwo says:

    @Scott:

    That looks similar to a change that was implemented at an IRS website roughly a year ago.

    (The site I use to pay my quarterly estimated taxes, this one:

    https://www.eftps.gov/eftps/login/logout )

    No big deal, I just get a phone call with a six digit code number.

    BTW. ID.Me will bombard you with sales pitches.

    Not my experience. There were three login choices, maybe I lucked out when I picked one.

    eftps stands, I think, for electronic funds transfer payment system.

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  8. charontwo says:

    Reposting from yesterday’s China thread:

    @JohnSF:

    What has really shifted the dial in Europe is Vance, and the obvious indicators that MAGA has taken over the Republican asylum, and won’t be going away any time soon.

    Unless the GOP manages to rapidly discredit itself. Rare, but not impossible – the 1930’s after the 1920’s.

    Stock markets in Asia and Europe are mostly all having a pretty bad day today, U.S. stock futures are currently off a bit too.

    ETA: Digby thinks Trump is nuts.

    https://digbysblog.net/2025/03/29/hes-losing-it-2/

  9. Scott says:

    @charontwo: Yes, there were three choices for login. 1) Original SSA only login, ID.ME login, and login.gov. For Gov services, I use SSA, VA, DFAS, Tricare/milconnect and probably some others I rarely use. I think maybe the aforementioned sales pitches from ID.ME results from using it to get military/veterans discounts.

    Like everybody else, I spend a lot of time keeping track of names and passwords, even with the help of a password manager.

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  10. Charley in Cleveland says:

    @CSK: Another example of Trump “flooding the zone with bullshit.” The 22nd amendment is clear:
    No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. That’s as clear as it can be, contrary to whatever Trump is said to be considering. Of course the Constitution is merely a suggestion in MAGAstan, where a corrupt SCOTUS is expected to appease the king.

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  11. wr says:

    @Scott: The ID.me sign in is nothing new. They’ve been using it for years.

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  12. Gromitt Gunn says:

    @Scott – login.gov works well. It is what Federal employees use for nonsensitive platforms like USA Staffing as an alternate to using your smart card. I haven’t had any issues using it.

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  13. Stormy Dragon says:

    @Charley in Cleveland:

    SCOTUS will just use the same argument they used with the insurrection clause: individual states can’t unilaterally exclude someone from the ballot on the basis of the 22nd ammendment, and that it is up to congress to enforce the ammendment when the electoral votes are counted

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  14. MarkedMan says:

    I came by a few weeks ago to report on my latest small pro democracy efforts only to find the site in meltdown. Glad to see it functioning again!

    Three weekend ago I was back to the Baltimore area anti-Tesla protest. It seemed about double the size and I like to think the article that ran in the Banner after I contacted them and sent in pictures they used had something to do with that. The last two weekends have been consumed by illness and a move, but I did see another Banner article https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/politics-power/national-politics/tesla-takedown-protesters-maryland-EIRM2YA54NATHLXPZWQOUE3MTM/ about the latest protest. This time they sent a reporter. It also appears that it was one of the biggest nationwide

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  15. CSK says:

    @Charley in Cleveland:

    The MAGAs seem to agree that Trump is just trolling the libturds.

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  16. Scott says:

    @wr: @Gromitt Gunn: Well, I’m going to have to give them more patience. It is when I had to switch from laptop to phone in order to compare a picture ID (driver’s license) with a new selfie from my phone and they didn’t compare. Tried twice. I’m pretty patient with technology but only if I’m not in a hurry.

  17. MarkedMan says:

    Not sure what happened with that first link there but don’t trust myself to try to fix it. Which brings me to a non-political comment. Ear Infections! Holy shit! I had no idea how high they could go on the pain scale. On a scale of 1 to Worst-Kidney-Stone-I-Ever-Had, it was a 9. I’m taking one off because I could still walk if I had to, but I spent most of the time rocking back and forth in a chair, first at home, then in urgent care, then in the ER. It finally ruptured, and between that and the super Tylenol it finally got to excruciating but bearable. A week later my head seems to have stopped leaking but for some reason that has corresponded with worse balance. Lost 8 pounds in five days but definitely don’t recommend the diet.

    Oh, and we moved household this weekend and there things I had to do, some involving some very shaky time on ladders. So no time or ability for political action

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  18. Bobert says:

    @MarkedMan: best wishes to you (health wise) and keep up the political action. I miss your insight, but do what you are able. Good to “hear” from you.

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  19. MarkedMan says:

    @Bobert: Thanks! Definitely on the mend, but still feel like someone stuffed my head full of gym socks and then started banging on it with a wooden spoon, and now dizzy on top of that. But I’m going to opening day. As I said to my wife, if I was able to climb up and down on ladders and help with the movers, I’ll be damned if I can’t walk ten minutes to the stadium and then sit in a seat for three hours. Will wear earplugs though!

  20. Kingdaddy says:

    In case you need to explain to someone why due process is a cornerstone of American democracy and the rule of law, here’s a pithy explanation.

    https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/bonus-133-due-process-and-the-rule

    It’s pretty tragic that you do need to explain this to a substantial number of people, but that’s just life in Our Awful Age.

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  21. just nutha says:

    @Charley in Cleveland:

    That’s as clear as it can be, contrary to whatever Trump is said to be considering. Of course the Constitution is merely a suggestion in MAGAstan, where a corrupt SCOTUS is expected to appease the king. [emphasis added]

    Exactly! The system works to the degree the participants allow it to by following the rules and the gatekeepers can protect the gates. If Trump decides to run again, who is going to order him kept off ballot? SCOTUS doesn’t seem a likely candidate, and has no enforcement agency anyway. Same with Congress. And the Republican party itself.

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  22. Michael Cain says:

    @Scott: Must have been three or four years ago that the SS announced that the name/password access would be going away.

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  23. CSK says:

    @Bobert:

    Knowing Trump, that’s not entirely outside the realm of possibility.

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  24. becca says:

    Testing to see if my avatar has changed.
    No, it has not.

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  25. Kathy says:

    @Stormy Dragon:

    That would be easier than kneading the law, shaping it into a misshapen pretzel, and issuing a decision that essentially says “the rapist can do whatever he wants.”

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  26. CSK says:

    @becca:

    Did you change it to a pic of Ms. Sadie, I hope?

  27. Scott says:

    @Scott: @Scott: Well, that was fun. Got Login.gov to work. The selfie software used was twitchy and hard to capture the picture (no, my hands aren’t shaky and I’m not caffeinated). The use of a personal key was new to me (I have to print it out or electronically save it somewhere (and remember where saved)).

    BTW, if you don’t have a phone camera you are advised to go to your local post office to get authentication.

    However, Login.gov is not currently working with SSA but it is working with the VA website. Go figure. I used the ID.ME to get me logged into the SSA site instead.

    Yes, it does seem more secure but you are dealing with seniors now. Good luck with that. Can’t wait until my two APOE4 alleles kick in. I expect chaos and calls to your friendly neighborhood congressman.

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  28. Kathy says:

    It will be hard tomorrow to see headlines that are funny, ridiculous, mocking, hilarious, or terrifying, and not be confused whether they are real or an April Fools’ prank.

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  29. Bobert says:

    @Scott: Would you or charon2 know what identification process is used by either of these two (login.gov or ID.ME).
    The reason I ask is because several years ago, when trying to setup my ssa.gov login, I had to go through a series of questions that were multiple choice, and if you gave an incorrect response you got locked out and had to go to the SS office for an appointment.
    Sounds simple enough, however some of the questions were ambigious, for example: “What was the color of your first car” – to which I said to myself – before or after I painted it.
    So, what do either of these new log-in require to establish identity?

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  30. charontwo says:

    @Bobert:

    It’s been a long time since I have accessed SSA or anything other than the IRS EFTPS. I am not sure I interacted with either of the two you mentioned. I had already been using IRS EFTPS for years, all they were doing was adding two factor authentification. I don’t really remember, but I don’t think they asked for anything more than email address and *landline phone number (and the IRS PIN I had previously been given).

    *(in my case).

  31. charontwo says:

    @becca:

    I do not see any avatar, just the letter “G”.

  32. Scott says:

    @Bobert: For login.gov go to https://www.login.gov/create-an-account/

    You’ll need an email address, a password, one or more authentification methods such as

    Face or touch unlock
    Security key
    Federal government employee or military identification (PIV/CAC)

    Authentication application
    Text/voice message
    Backup codes

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  33. Jay L Gischer says:

    Count me as one of the people who, like Digby, are wondering about Trump’s mental acuity. It’s possible that his statements about being out of the loop are accurate.

    Let’s recall that in the transcript we read, Stephen Miller confirmed the green light with “what I heard”. This is not what I understand it should look like. Meanwhile Susie Wiles is silent.

    It could be that all the bluster and chaos from Trump is because he doesn’t know what’s happening, and he can’t track it.

    I still remember the sense I got from that Madison Square Garden rally was that he was saying goodbye. Is he holding rallies now? Is he even spending much time in the WH?

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  34. becca says:

    @CSK: I was trying, well, mr becca was, but my setup is a Rube Goldberg configuration and proved frustrating. Will try later.

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  35. Michael Reynolds says:

    @Jay L Gischer:

    It could be that all the bluster and chaos from Trump is because he doesn’t know what’s happening, and he can’t track it.

    He never did understand, but in his first term he still had a few professionals around him. Trump is an ignoramus. And lazy and stupid on top of that. And now there’s no one to push back against senile grandpa’s random malice.

    For the moment the MAGAts are pretending everything is fine and Trump is playing n-dimensional chess. The next stage will be, ‘Whaddabout Biden? He’s way less senile than Biden was!’ The final stage will be the pity-blame: ‘No wonder he’s having some issues because liberals have been so mean to him.’

    They will never see reality, they will never admit they were fools, they will never take responsibility for the damage they’ve done. They are, after all, twinned with apocalyptic Christian denominations which have been proclaiming the second coming for two thousand and twenty-five years without success. Doubt is heresy and betrayal, failures are tests of faith, a raging pandemic that could have been prevented is god’s way of saying we should have just killed all the trans people, a category 5 hurricane without FEMA is the fault of woke Hollywood, etc….

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  36. Beth says:

    So, I read this article on my phone (so it’s paywalled here):

    https://www.vox.com/politics/403364/tik-tok-young-voters-2024-election-democrats-david-shor

    It’s another why Kamala lost articles gussied up with pretty much the usual crap. What stood out to me was this line

    Fundamentally, 40 percent of the country identifies as conservative. Roughly 40 percent is moderate, 20 percent is liberal, though it depends exactly how you ask it.

    For a while today I couldn’t figure out why this was the most irritating part of the article. I realized that there is something that binds ‘principled’ conservatives and people who claim to be ‘moderates’: they have never actually had to live under actual conservative rule. For the last 40ish years as hard as the actual left has been pushing for better outcomes for people, the ‘conservatives’ and ‘moderates’ have fought tooth and nail against things that would actually help people: socialized healthcare, tax reform that would slow down the concentration of wealth, more housing, student loan reform.

    Idiots like David French clung to his beloved fence to opposing EVERYFUCKINGTHING. This made the system brittle and prone to actual Conservatives taking power. Actual Conservatives like Stephen Miller and Musk. Now we get to actually live with the policies and laws of actual Conservatives.

    I’m hopeful that the one benefit of Trump is that he just absolutely destroys the moderates. You didn’t let us fix anything and the cost was we lost everything.

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  37. Jay L Gischer says:

    @Michael Reynolds: Religious beliefs have unquestionably been intertwined with some of the worst things humans have done. The Inquisition, slavery, etc.

    AND, it is also intertwined with things like the abolitionist movement, and Johnson’s Great Society – Medicare and Medicaid. Somehow though, that religious aspect of the left has not prospered in the last 60 years. Blame is not my point. My point is that religious involvement in institutions that are more socially aware and progressive has come to the point of near invisibility.

    I have long felt that people often put on their religion like a uniform that gave them status and approval. They want their own beliefs and convictions validated by society. They claim to know Gods Will better than others. Even at my most fervent, I thought this was nonsense. I thought it was a monstrous lack of humility and a contradiction of not just a few teachings. We see through a glass but darkly. That means everyone.

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  38. charontwo says:

    @Michael Reynolds:

    For the moment the MAGAts are pretending everything is fine and Trump is playing n-dimensional chess.

    They can never admit he is senile without people asking “How long have you known this?” and “Why did you not do something?” and “Why was this kept secret?”

    The stinky stuff hits the rotating blades once it becomes so obvious, as he deteriorates, that many more people realize this.

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  39. Michael Reynolds says:

    @Beth:
    I wonder, if moderates are to blame, why Trump et al did not run on opposition to Social Security, Medicare, the VA or even Obamacare? They aren’t attacking liberal/moderate programs or ideas, they’re attacking progressives. They’re bad people but they are quite good at finding weak points and exploiting them, and their targets are progressives.

    There is a lot of blame to go around. Liberals were timid, smug and lazy. And progressives delivered a master class in how to lose support. It would be good to have a real conversation about this. But the progressive position seems to be, ‘We did nothing wrong! Nothing!’

    At least moderates will consider the possibility that they made mistakes. Progressives? Nope, they are as incapable of error as Trump himself, gods walking amongst us mere mortals. That is a fragile position to try and hold.

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  40. Fortune says:

    @charontwo:

    The stinky stuff hits the rotating blades once it becomes so obvious, as he deteriorates, that many more people realize this.

    Two or three years ago I’d believe you, but now the opposite has been proven.

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  41. charontwo says:

    Progress Pond

    One of the recurring themes we’ve seen when members of Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) show up at government agencies is active resistance from the people who work there. To cite just two examples, it happened recently at the U.S. African Development Foundation and the U.S. Institute of Peace. On Friday and Saturday, it happened at a cabinet-level department–the U.S. Department of the Interior.

    As the New York Times reports, Interior’s chief information officer and chief information security officer strongly objected when DOGE officials Stephanie Holmes and Katrine Trampe entered the building over the weekend and demanded unfettered access to “a payroll system that processes salaries for about 276,000 federal employees across dozens of agencies.”

    They had a plethora of concerns. The first was that no one at the Interior Department, including themselves, had the kind of global administrative access that Holmes and Trampe were demanding. The second was that having that kind of access would open Holmes and Trampe up as targets of terroristic cyberattacks or other malicious hacks. The third was that granting (or just having) that kind of access could violate the Privacy Act and be a prosecutable offense. The fourth was that it would allow them “to make changes to employment status, compensation level, health benefits and more — with no additional oversight or approval required.” The fifth was that any kind of administrative access to the payroll system “typically requires training and certification” and that “without formal qualifications, the Department may experience significant failure because of operator error.”

    These concerns were drafted up in a memo on Friday.

    On Friday, the federal employees asked the DOGE workers to give the memo to Interior Secretary Doug Burgum for his signature, thus taking on the legal responsibility for those risks, the two people said. Mr. Burgum never signed the memo. Tyler Hassan, a former DOGE employee who was recently named as the Interior Department’s acting assistant secretary of policy, management and budget, then placed the agency’s chief information officer, and chief information security officer on administrative leave, and placed them under investigation for their “workplace behavior,” the two people said.

    These security officers’ “workplace behavior” really consisted of trying to follow the law and protect the security of the system they are/were in charge of safeguarding. Their failure to just obediently follow orders from DOGE randos who showed up at their door making crazy and dangerous demands has led to them being put on administrative leave.

    Here is a gift link to NYT:

    NYT Gift

  42. charontwo says:

    Progress Pond

    One of the recurring themes we’ve seen when members of Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) show up at government agencies is active resistance from the people who work there. To cite just two examples, it happened recently at the U.S. African Development Foundation and the U.S. Institute of Peace. On Friday and Saturday, it happened at a cabinet-level department–the U.S. Department of the Interior.

    As the New York Times reports, Interior’s chief information officer and chief information security officer strongly objected when DOGE officials Stephanie Holmes and Katrine Trampe entered the building over the weekend and demanded unfettered access to “a payroll system that processes salaries for about 276,000 federal employees across dozens of agencies.”

    They had a plethora of concerns. The first was that no one at the Interior Department, including themselves, had the kind of global administrative access that Holmes and Trampe were demanding. The second was that having that kind of access would open Holmes and Trampe up as targets of terroristic cyberattacks or other malicious hacks. The third was that granting (or just having) that kind of access could violate the Privacy Act and be a prosecutable offense. The fourth was that it would allow them “to make changes to employment status, compensation level, health benefits and more — with no additional oversight or approval required.” The fifth was that any kind of administrative access to the payroll system “typically requires training and certification” and that “without formal qualifications, the Department may experience significant failure because of operator error.”

    These concerns were drafted up in a memo on Friday.

    On Friday, the federal employees asked the DOGE workers to give the memo to Interior Secretary Doug Burgum for his signature, thus taking on the legal responsibility for those risks, the two people said. Mr. Burgum never signed the memo. Tyler Hassan, a former DOGE employee who was recently named as the Interior Department’s acting assistant secretary of policy, management and budget, then placed the agency’s chief information officer, and chief information security officer on administrative leave, and placed them under investigation for their “workplace behavior,” the two people said.

    These security officers’ “workplace behavior” really consisted of trying to follow the law and protect the security of the system they are/were in charge of safeguarding. Their failure to just obediently follow orders from DOGE randos who showed up at their door making crazy and dangerous demands has led to them being put on administrative leave.

    Here is a gift link to NYT:

    NYT Gift

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  43. Kathy says:

    Yesterday’s cooking consisted of not shepherd’s pie, at least as I understand it. I began by caramelizing two very large red onions (half of which went to the weekly dinner), then browned some ground beef, added some tomato paste and mixed, deglazed with half a cup of beef bouillon which I let reduce, and at last I added some thawed peas. Next I made mashed potatoes from flakes, seasoned with nutmeg, ground mustard seed, and a little ground oregano. I placed the beef mix in a baking dish, covered that with the mashed potatoes, sprinkled some cheese on top, and baked in the oven for a while (tooo bad the broiler quit working…)

    It was pretty good.

    On other things, I’m reading an audiobook called The Little Book of Aliens, by Adam Frank. the author is an astronomer who works on detecting bio and techno signatures from exoplanets (no detections have been carried out yet; I gather the work now is mostly on refining techniques and instruments).

    He came up with an unusual datum: there may not be enough carbon dioxide on Mars to terraform it.

    Huh? Isn’t the whole atmosphere like 99% CO2 with some water vapor for variety? Well, yes. And it’s bigger than Earth’s atmosphere, too. But also thinner. The mass of the atmosphere is tiny. So a lot of carbon must still be locked in rocks.

    There may not be enough water, either. A lot has been lost to the solar wind (because Mars also lacks a magnetic field).

    So, it looks grim for the nazi in chief’s dreams of establishing humanity there.

    but it looks great for the vast mass of people who’d like to see him take a one-way trip to Mars.

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  44. charontwo says:

    @charontwo:

    From the NYT link:

    The move overruled objections from senior IT staff who feared it could compromise highly sensitive government personnel information, including by making it more vulnerable to terrorist cyberattacks, these people said.

    By accessing the system, which is housed at the Interior Department, the DOGE workers now have visibility into sensitive employee information, such as Social Security numbers, and the ability to more easily hire and fire workers, according to the two people, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they feared retribution.

    The DOGE workers had tried for about two weeks to obtain administrative access to the program, known as the Federal Personnel and Payroll System, the two people said. The dispute came to a head on Saturday, as the DOGE workers obtained the access and then placed two of the IT officials who had resisted them on administrative leave and under investigation, the people said.

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  45. Gustopher says:

    @Michael Reynolds: It’s fascinating how much you’ve incorporated the right wing claims into your views on progressives.

    It’s not quite “I hate Jews, but Hitler really is trouble for everyone. Why are those Jews so hateable? It’s all the Jews fault.” But it’s also not entirely dissimilar.

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  46. Fortune says:

    @Gustopher: Michael Reynolds didn’t incorporate any right-wing claims in his comment, unless you consider the possibility of a progressive mistake to be a right-wing claim. If I missed one please highlight it.

  47. Kathy says:

    So, things just keep getting worse for the airlines.

    Virgin Atlantic warned of slowdown in demand to the US, and IAG’s shares fell. IAG is the parent company that owns British Airways, Iberia, and some other European airlines.

    Some airlines have not yet fully recovered from the trump pandemic slump. And we’re not even in the trumpcession yet. When that hits, it might be time to buy airline shares*, as they will surely be bailed out or get a “stimulus”, or something. Maybe. Who can tell what a senile old fool who may or may not be in charge will do ar be allowed or told to do?

    I can see some European and Canadian travelers heading instead to Mexico, the Caribbean, Brazil, Colombia, even Cuba. But there’s not as much reciprocal traffic from these destinations as there is in America.

    What I really wonder is how this will affect business travel.

    *Do not take any comments I make as investment advice.

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  48. Kingdaddy says:
  49. Gustopher says:

    @Fortune: I think you need to look to the whole body of Mr. Reynold’s work, where he mostly espouses progressive values but hates each and every progressive.

    The flaws of the liberals are unfortunate, but the flaws of the progressives are unforgivable.

    It’s the respectability politics of the mid-to-late 1980s gay community, redux. Will And Grace did more to shape America’s views on equality for garden variety homosexuals than Act Up, but Act Up was needed to be the catalyst that set the stage for Will And Grace.

    Act Up, the bunch of messy radicals who espoused such radical views as visibility and pride, to try to get physical numbers to put pressure on Fauci to move more aggressively on approving trials for AIDS treatments.

    Act Up, who the garden variety homosexuals would point to and say “I’m gay, but I’m not one of them”. Act Up, who was visibly queer.

    And, like the garden variety homosexuals of the mid-to-late 1980s, liberals are followers. More interested in protecting what they have (or slowing the assault on what they have) than really doing anything for anyone else, even when that is how you protect yourself — raise up that next group so when the shit hits the fan, there’s someone else to take the brunt of the splatter.

    I believe it was George W. Bush who explained it best, when justifying his war of choice that killed at least 100,000 Iraqis — “we fight them over there, so we don’t have to fight them here.”

    Except, ideally without killing at least 100,000 Iraqis.

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  50. Flat Earth Luddite says:

    With apologies to all members of academia, past, present, and future.

    S.B. 1 will set rules around classroom discussion, create post-tenure reviews, put diversity scholarships at risk, create a retrenchment provision that block unions from negotiating on tenure, shorten university board of trustees terms from nine years down to six years, and require students take an American history course, among other things.

    Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine (R) has signed legislation banning diversity efforts, prohibiting faculty strikes and creating post-tenure reviews at state colleges and universities. The bill sets rules around “controversial beliefs” like climate change, electoral politics, foreign policy, marriage and abortion. (Ohio Capital Journal)

    https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/briefs/ohio-gov-dewine-signs-higher-ed-bill-regulating-classroom-discussion-and-banning-diversity-efforts/

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  51. Jay L Gischer says:

    Michael Reynolds has experienced clear personal harm from people espousing far-left views. In a way that few others of us have.

    Which I think drives a lot of his anger. In his situation, I would probably be angry too.

    AND, I don’t think there is an alternate reality where the right wing assault we are seeing couldn’t find an good target to motivate their destruction of moderate to center-left institutions and the rule of law. There’s always going to be a target.

    Policing people you’ve never heard of before on their rhetoric does not have much value for me, nor does blaming them. I mean, it’s already a long shot to even have an effect, and even if it works, there will always be somebody else to frame as a “radical”. Always some quotes or clips to take out of context.

    Lots of us are spoiling for a fight. I think Michael is, too. I don’t think we should spend that energy fighting each other.

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  52. Kathy says:
  53. DrDaveT says:

    @Michael Reynolds:

    They aren’t attacking liberal/moderate programs or ideas, they’re attacking progressives.

    Sorry, no.

    They are attacking science, rule of law, equity, all social programs, an independent judiciary, democracy, government itself, international alliances, economic theory, … Those are not “progressive” concepts or policies. The assault on DEI is trivial, compared to the assault on the pillars of liberal democracy.

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  54. DrDaveT says:

    @Fortune:

    If I missed one please highlight it.

    Done.

  55. Flat Earth Luddite says:

    @Kathy:

    Are you sure we can’t blame the Red Brigade? /s/

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  56. Gustopher says:

    @Kathy: It might be a false flag. Given that sales are way down, the Tesla corporation may be torching their own vehicles to collect the insurance.

    I would normally not assume such a thing, but given that their dealerships in Canada claimed to have sold close to 9,000 vehicles in 72 hours to get an expiring tax credit. That has big “everyone cheats, if you don’t cheat, you’re a sucker” vibes, which likely reflect the company culture as a whole rather than a few bad Canadian apples.

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  57. Gustopher says:

    @DrDaveT: Yes and no. The are using attacks on progressives and trans people as the targets to keep people mad/motivated while they are also attacking the institutions of our government.

    I have no doubt that if trans people hadn’t made the gains they had in the past few years, and that progressives weren’t out being progressive, a lot of those attacks would be falling on people like me — medium left, garden-variety queer liberals.

    And, I would like to thank the more progressive and more vulnerable populations for taking it on the chin before it gets to me. I’m sorry it’s you, but I’m glad it’s not me.

    It’s part of why the moderately vulnerable groups should support the more marginalized groups. I mean, sure, it’s objectively the right thing to do, and there’s solidarity and intersectionality and all that proper altruistic stuff, but it also moves the immediate target off our backs. It’s self-preservation.

    Meanwhile, if there’s anything I can do from way back here to help out the people taking the brunt of worst of it, let me know. I’m happy to help, and hopefully delay the fascists from getting around to targeting me.

    And if nothing else, it gives me breathing room and a warning. If they start treating the trans community the way they are treating immigrants (so far, trans folks aren’t being abducted off the streets and shipped across the country or to a foreign concentration camp without any due process), then it’s absolutely time for me to pack up and head across a border with my cats.

    (This is half tongue-in-cheek, but I also absolutely believe it, so is it really tongue-in-cheek at all?)

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  58. DrDaveT says:

    @Gustopher:

    Yes and no. They are using attacks on progressives and trans people as the targets to keep people mad/motivated while they are also attacking the institutions of our government.

    Oh, absolutely — no argument from me on that. I was responding to Reynolds’ claim that they are ONLY attacking progressive ideas/programs. “The government should have employees, who do things for the American people” is not a progressive idea.

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