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Steven L. Taylor
About Steven L. Taylor
Steven L. Taylor is a Professor Emeritus of Political Science and former College of Arts and Sciences Dean. His main areas of expertise include parties, elections, and the institutional design of democracies. His most recent book is the co-authored A Different Democracy: American Government in a 31-Country Perspective. He earned his Ph.D. from the University of Texas and his BA from the University of California, Irvine. He has been blogging since 2003 (originally at the now defunct Poliblog). Follow Steven on Twitter and/or BlueSky.

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  1. Michael Reynolds says:

    The TL;DR on the Trump administration is this: Liberals were right about everything.

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  2. Charley in Cleveland says:

    Trump is putting his dementia on display every day. Where’s Jake Tapper? Why isn’t the “legacy media” asking mental health professionals to weigh in? If you only get your information over in Wingnuttia, there is an ICE agent in the hospital after being “viciously run over” by a “domestic terrorist.” If you live in the real world you know that the Secretary of Homeland Security and the President of the United States lied their asses off about a murder committed by a masked asshole acting under the color of federal authority. If I’m the police commissioner in Minneapolis, said masked asshole would already be under arrest. Let some DOJ stooge tell a Minneapolis judge about immunity. And oh yeah….pass the bourbon.

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  3. Scott says:

    “We’re Too Close to the Debris”

    When SpaceX CEO Elon Musk chose a remote Texas outpost on the Gulf Coast to develop his company’s ambitious Starship, he put the 400-foot rocket on a collision course with the commercial airline industry.

    Each time SpaceX did a test run of Starship and its booster, dubbed Super Heavy, the megarocket’s flight path would take it soaring over busy Caribbean airspace before it reached the relative safety of the open Atlantic Ocean. The company planned as many as five such launches a year as it perfected the craft, a version of which is supposed to one day land on the moon.

    Last year, three of Starship’s five launches exploded at unexpected points on their flight paths, twice raining flaming debris over congested commercial airways and disrupting flights. And while no aircraft collided with rocket parts, pilots were forced to scramble for safety.

    A ProPublica investigation, based on agency documents, interviews with pilots and passengers, air traffic control recordings and photos and videos of the events, found that by authorizing SpaceX to test its experimental rocket over busy airspace, the FAA accepted the inherent risk that the rocket might put airplane passengers in danger.

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  4. MarkedMan says:

    @Michael Reynolds: If you were a non-racist Republican/Conservative* supporter during the Reagan administration, you were turning a blind eye to the deal Reagan was promising: Republicans/Conservatives would throw blacks and other minorities under the bus in return for the votes of Southern bigots. If you truly believed that Republicans/Conservatives supported fiscal responsibility by the time Gingrich rolled around, you were a fool. If you ever believed that Republicans/Conservatives were the party of small government, then you were simply performing a see-no-evil ritual as every time they gained governmental power they used it to crush the weak and put the fix in for big business. And I knew in 1978 that when Republicans/Conservatives were lecturing the “No Nukes” protestors that “if you lived in the Soviet Union you would be in jail or worse for questioning the government”, there was more envy in their words than warning.

    *By “Conservative” I mean people who label themselves as such. Aside from a few words they blather, they are indistinguishable from Republicans. I definitely don’t mean people who tend towards small “c” conservative policies as a matter of nature, as I put myself into that category.

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  5. charontwo says:

    @Charley in Cleveland:

    If I’m the police commissioner in Minneapolis, said masked asshole would already be under arrest. Let some DOJ stooge tell a Minneapolis judge about immunity.

    Can’t recall where I read it, but there is some quirky legislation that immunizes CBP/ICE from accountability.

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  6. HelloWorld says:

    @Charley in Cleveland: I argue with my friends about this almost every day, but I think dementia accusations about trump are wishful thinking. He does not seem any different to me today then he did 10 years ago.

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  7. gVOR10 says:

    @HelloWorld: It may not be dementia, but if accusations of dementia get the supposedly liberal MSM to finally pay attention to his behavior, I’ll take it.

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  8. EddieInCA says:

    @Michael Reynolds:

    The anger I feel for the “Let’s wait to see what happens” and “How bad can can it be? We survived the first term” crowds is bordering on rage.

    The anger I feel towards those STILL supporting him after all that’s happened is even beyond that.

    And the sad reality is that it keeps getting worse. There is no bottom. And I have zero belief that enough people will turn against him to make a difference in time to save this country.

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  9. Kathy says:

    The problem for Europe given America’s current foreign policy trajectory, is not that the continent will be left alone to fend off Russia. Europe’s quite capable of doing that. The problem is the continent will be left alone to fend of America and Russia.

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  10. Kathy says:

    What struck me in Krugman’s substack yesterday, which @charontwo linked to, is that the 300+ billion barrel Venezuelan oil reserves were determined by a Hugo Chavez decree.

    Here’s the relevant part:

    This increase, from roughly 100 billion to 300 billion barrels, didn’t reflect major new discoveries or exploration. Instead, it reflected the Chavez government’s decision to reclassify the country’s Orinoco Belt heavy oil as “proved” — oil that can be recovered with reasonable certainty under existing economic and operating conditions:

    Ok. I can understand a dictator doing this. I don’t get why the press goes along with it, and keep citing a Chavez generated number that’s far from reality.

    The oil is there. But about two thirds, if Krugman’s figures are right, cannot be recovered with present technology in any way that makes economic sense. It might be so in the future, either with new technologies or much, much higher oil prices. But right now it may as well not be there.

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  11. Scott says:

    @Kathy:

    Here is the analysis of our local Houston business columnist, Chris Tomlinson.

    Trump has overpromised on Venezuela. Why U.S. oil companies will likely underdeliver.

    Regardless of how much producible oil there is, there is the impact on the US:

    In January, Trump encouraged foreign oil producers to flood the market to bring down pump prices. His buddy, Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, came through for him with OPEC.

    The additional oil, though, ran smack into lower demand due to higher electric vehicle use. The price of oil has fallen 20% since last year and is below the Texas breakeven price of $60 a barrel. The U.S. Energy Information Administration predicted it will drop further in 2026 as more overseas oil wells come online, even without additional barrels from Venezuela.

    Low oil prices lead to mergers and layoffs, as my colleague Rachel Nostrant reported. ConocoPhillips merged with Marathon and announced a 25% reduction in jobs. Chevron is cutting 20% of its workforce after acquiring Hess.

    Shell is laying off 20% of workers, Exxon is cutting 4%, and BP is eliminating 6,200 jobs. Smaller oil companies are drilling only a few new wells in West Texas, and thousands of roughnecks are out of work.

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  12. Scott says:

    @Kathy:

    Here is the analysis of our local Houston business columnist, Chris Tomlinson.

    Trump has overpromised on Venezuela. Why U.S. oil companies will likely underdeliver.

    Regardless of how much producible oil there is, there is the impact on the US:

    In January, Trump encouraged foreign oil producers to flood the market to bring down pump prices. His buddy, Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, came through for him with OPEC.

    The additional oil, though, ran smack into lower demand due to higher electric vehicle use. The price of oil has fallen 20% since last year and is below the Texas breakeven price of $60 a barrel. The U.S. Energy Information Administration predicted it will drop further in 2026 as more overseas oil wells come online, even without additional barrels from Venezuela.

    Low oil prices lead to mergers and layoffs, as my colleague Rachel Nostrant reported. ConocoPhillips merged with Marathon and announced a 25% reduction in jobs. Chevron is cutting 20% of its workforce after acquiring Hess.

    Shell is laying off 20% of workers, Exxon is cutting 4%, and BP is eliminating 6,200 jobs. Smaller oil companies are drilling only a few new wells in West Texas, and thousands of roughnecks are out of work.

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  13. JohnSF says:

    @Kathy:
    By the time oil prices get to anywhere near a level to make the higher bounds of Venezuelan tar oil “reserves” recoverable (ditto most North Americn oil shales and tar sands, likely also) I’d be willing to make a small side-bet they’ll meet the costs of renewable derived synfuels coming down.

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  14. charontwo says:

    One of the ways red states stay red:

    Erin

    The movement is not limited to transgender people. A far larger number of LGBTQ+ people overall have also changed states since the Trump election. While the percentage is smaller—about 5% of non-transgender LGBTQ+ respondents—the raw numbers are much larger, translating to roughly 1.5 million people relocating across state lines since the election. Their reasons closely mirror those cited by transgender respondents: widespread harassment, persistent discrimination, and a growing sense that remaining in place has become untenable.

    This is not the first survey to document this kind of movement. In 2023, Data for Progress examined transgender migration in the aftermath of harsh anti-transgender legislation passed at the state level, and found similarly large numbers of transgender people reporting that they had moved to a different state as a result. While the Movement Advancement Project survey focuses only on migration since the 2024 election, the broader pattern is clear: this migration has been underway for several years, and the true number of transgender people who have relocated in response to hostile policy environments is likely far larger than any single survey can capture.

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  15. charontwo says:

    Trump is, in a way, taking us back to the 16th century, when armed conflicts were about the personal enrichment of aristocrats and leaders.

    Consider this excerpt re the legalities of the oil to U.S. ploy:

    Hubbell

    (At the link also discussion of Renee Good and Greenland)

    American Imperialism and Trump’s Corruption

    Trump (and Republican members of Congress) are officially acting as if the Constitution does not exist. Wednesday brought a wild series of announcements predicated on the notion that Trump possesses omnipotent, unbounded power to run the finances and foreign policy of the US without congressional oversight or compliance with the Constitution.

    Venezuela

    As to Venezuela, administration announcements on Wednesday dropped all pretense of the invasion into Venezuela being about drugs. Instead, the administration said it would assume control of Venezuela’s oil production indefinitely. See The Hill, Wright says US will sell Venezuelan oil ‘indefinitely’.

    Worse, Trump said that Venezuela would give the US 50 million barrels of oil, which the US would sell on open markets, and deposit the proceeds into offshore accounts. The implication is that those offshore accounts are controlled by Trump, who will spend the money as he pleases. See USA Today, Trump says Venezuela will give US 50 million barrels of oil to sell. (Trump said, “This Oil will be sold at its Market Price, and that money will be controlled by me, as President of the United States of America, to ensure it is used to benefit the people of Venezuela and the United States.”)

    That arrangement violates Article I, which gives Congress control over appropriations. The president has no independent authority to raise funds or spend them. The arrangement also violates the Antideficiency Act, which makes it a crime for any person to make or authorize an expenditure on behalf of the US in excess of that approved by Congress. Antideficiency Act | U.S. GAO.

    A different law requires that all monies received on behalf of the US must be deposited into the US Treasury and may not be deposited into any other account, including a bank. See 31 U.S. Code § 3302 – Custodians of money.

    Section 3302 provides, in part,

    Except as provided by another law, an official or agent of the United States Government having custody or possession of public money shall keep the money safe without—

    (1) lending the money;

    (2) using the money;

    (3) depositing the money in a bank. . .

    [A]n official or agent of the Government receiving money for the Government from any source shall deposit the money in the Treasury as soon as practicable without deduction for any charge or claim.

    In short, it now appears that Trump believes he used 15,000 US troops, 150 planes, and 25% of the US Navy to invade Venezuela so that he could gain personal control over billions in oil revenue kept in offshore accounts.

    The arrangement is so shockingly unconstitutional and corrupt that it is unfathomable that congressional Republicans will not object to the arrangement.

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  16. JohnSF says:

    @charontwo:
    What the actual f…?

    It recalls the end of the Roman Republic, when consuls looted conquered provinces to enrich themselves and fund privatised legions.

    If the US Congress permits any such arrangement, it is certifiably nuts.
    Even thinking of this should justify impeachment, or nothing does.

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  17. Kathy says:

    @charontwo:
    @JohnSF:

    L’État, c’est moi!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!1

    The person who first is said to have uttered that phrase, styled himself The Sun King.

    The math pretty much works itself out.

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  18. charontwo says:

    @charontwo:

    Regarding my comments about the 16th century, Krugman:

    Krugman

    I use the word “clique” advisedly. That’s the term used by the political scientists Stacie E. Goddard and Abraham Newman in a recent paper titled “Further Back to the Future: Neo-Royalism, the Trump Administration, and the Emerging International System.”

    Goddard and Newman have received well-deserved attention for their analysis, which states that Americans should stop believing that U.S. foreign policy serves U.S. national interests. Instead, they argue, we must recognize that in many ways we’ve been transported back to the 16th century – a time before nation-states existed, when international affairs were a game played by dynasties serving their interests.

    Thus, the Italian Wars of the 16th century weren’t a fight between France and Spain, they were a contest for dominance between the House of Valois and the Habsburgs. Similarly, Goddard and Newman argue that Trumpist foreign policy has nothing to do with, well, making America great again, and everything to do with raising the wealth and status of the Trump family and its hangers-on — what they call our ruling clique.

    As Goddard and Newman point out, U.S. foreign policy over the past year makes no sense if interpreted through the lens of national interest. How can it serve U.S. interests to insult and demean Canada, which has been an utterly reliable ally? Why would a U.S. president talk about seizing Greenland, which belongs to another ally, Denmark, and is a place where America already has a military base and can do whatever it considers necessary to protect our national security?

    But the Trump clique doesn’t care whether nations have been staunch allies of the United States. They want subservient clients paying tribute, not to America, but to them personally. And that’s something democracies like Canada and Denmark won’t do.

    Trump has been remarkably transparent about his goals in Venezuela: It’s all about looting. That is, he wants to seize the country’s oil wealth on behalf of himself and his clique. Some people, notably María Corina Machado, leader of Venezuela’s opposition, have been surprised that Trump shows no interest in restoring democracy. But why would he? He’s unable to enrich himself personally in democracies like Canada and Denmark. But a repressive regime like Venezuela is willing to pay him protection money.

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  19. charontwo says:

    @JohnSF:

    I may have posted something here about Trump and Rubio’s benefactor Paul Singer, owner of a bunch of Citgo heavy oil refineries. If not, google Paul Singer or Citgo.

    ETA: Citgo was previously owned by Venezuela. Because of Venezuela’s precarious finances, Singer was able to buy it for$5.9B although its estimated value was $13B.

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  20. JohnSF says:

    Meanwhile in Iran, things are getting really heated.
    The govt seems to be shutting down the internet and othe communications, several Kurdish parties have called for a general strike.
    The Lurestan region seems to be on the verge of general revolt.
    (The Lurs are a non-Parsa-but-related ethnic group in the south-west of Iran)

    There are now reports on Xitter of IRGC and government buildings burning in Tehran.

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  21. Kathy says:

    If I may intrude with a bit of good news amidst what feels like the end times, I got the Hell Week bonus today.

    It was more than I thought I’d get, less than I think I should have gotten. If things continue as they are, it may pay for about 46% of my health insurance.

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  22. Jen says:

    America first! /s

    Exclusive: Trump administration mulls payments to sway Greenlanders to join US

    U.S. officials have discussed sending lump sum payments to Greenlanders as part of a bid to convince them to secede from Denmark and potentially join the United States, according to four sources familiar with the matter.
    While the exact dollar figure and logistics of any payment are unclear, U.S. officials, including White House aides, have discussed figures ranging from $10,000 to $100,000 per person, said two of the sources, who requested anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.

    Via Reuters.

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  23. JohnSF says:

    @MarkedMan:
    I’d not have supported any of the Republicans I can think of against any Democrat, even as far back as Eisenhower.

    But imho there was a case for right of centre sorta-conservatives to vote Republican, assuming they saw holding their noses and getting into bed with racists, evangelical nutcases, fiscally incontinent glibertarians, and corporate interest lobbyists, as tolerable to “block liberalism”.

    But after Trump 1 and especially after Jan 6 2021 there is no excuse whatsoever.

    I’m a sorta-conservative in many ways; and once actually voted Conservative (becuase the local Labour candidate was a Trot, there was no Liberal standing, and John Major was a decent enough leader).

    But I find it utterly inexplicable how anyone who self-identifies as “conservative” and therefore, presumably, in favour of the existing constitutional order, can even remotely consider voting for an insurrectionist, seditionary, and utterly corrupt, buffoon.

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  24. dazedandconfused says:

    @JohnSF:

    Just remember “conservative” is kissing cousin to “reactionary”. “Conservatives”, per Buckley, are people standing athwart history yelling “STOP!!”. In the US they are people who want things the way they were, like when black people were second-class citizens and effectively unable to vote.

    When the Democratic party had a stable majority it embraced this kind of conservatism. Then LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act…and the slow turn-over began. The South when from pure blue to pure red in the course of a few decades. Nixon and Atwater’s “Southern Strategy” worked.

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  25. Michael Reynolds says:

    Our youngest and her boyfriend are visiting us while we’re in London. Thanks to Gordon Ramsay’s genius for self-promotion Daughter #2 wanted to go to Petrus. We’d previously eaten at the Ramsay mothership a few years ago. Ramsay is a good chef, not a great chef. He’s not Grant Achatz or Charlie Trotter (RIP) or Alain DuCasse or Thomas Keller or Ferran Adria. He’s a great restaurateur, a great businessman and self-promoter, but he doesn’t change your life. Grant Achatz changes your life.

    Nothing tonight was as good as a sautéed softshell on white bread ot a great Texas brisket. But a hell of a lot more expensive.

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  26. Jen says:

    Y’all, Tehran is on fire. Literally.

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  27. JohnSF says:

    @dazedandconfused:
    That’s one reason I rather admire Johnson, Vietnam notwithstanding.
    He knew he was possibly wrecking the racist-Dem vote in the “solid South”, but did it anyway, when Kennedy had been hesitant.
    In the words of an old English pol:
    “Maugre the Devil! Let it go forward!”

    Another quote I can’t pin down to who said it, from my fuzzy memory (maybe it was me!): “Conservatives desire to preserve an idealised present. Reactionaries to reconstruct an imagined past.”

    I alwats like to distinguish the various strands: US Republicanism is (by definition) a rather odd variant of late-18th century liberalism; European 19th century “conservatism” was split between aristocratic/clericalist reactionaries and “right liberals”; later 20th century European conservatism junked reaction for Christian Democracy/modernist welfare capitalism.

    The last was a path the US Republicans looked to be on under Eisenhower.
    But the dynamics of racial politics, the rise of political evangelicalism, and the legacy of Sumnerist “radical liberalism” morphed into corporatism led via Goldwater and Nixon to being vulnerable to Trump-capture.
    Especially because the Republicans, in the US party system of open parties and primary elections, had no way to discipline and exclude nutcases from control of the activist party base in the way European parties could.

    (The nutcase takeover of the UK Conservatives despite party discipline seems to be proving this can happen elsewhere, if the party is in a state of decay)

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  28. JohnSF says:

    @Michael Reynolds:
    How’s the blizzard going in London?
    lol

    I’ve never eaten at a premier chef type restaurant, though at a few with Michelin stars.
    imho some without stars are pretty damn good, if you pick them right.
    Spinola’s in Bruges; La Recreation in Arques; il Focolare, Motagnana near Montespertoli (but only if you want bisteeca fiorentina: it has a very limited menu, lol.)

    But then again, I’m both easy to please, and a bit of a cheapskate 🙂

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  29. Scott says:

    Sen Tillis is finally raising a ruckus now that he is retiring. If only these Senators had some courage when it mattered.

    Senate unanimously approves installing Jan. 6, 2021 plaque

    The Senate unanimously approved a measure Thursday to display an existing plaque honoring the officers who protected the Capitol during the Jan. 6, 2021 riot.

    Congress passed a law in March 2022 mandating the plaque, but years later it has yet to be installed. Speaker Mike Johnson has argued the project is “not implementable,” and the Justice Department has maintained in litigation that an existing plaque does not comply with the law because it lists the departments who responded, not the individual officers.

    The measure on Thursday, led by Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.) and Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), sought to address the long-running political squabble.

    “On January 6, 2021, courageous law enforcement officers from the United States Capitol Police and other agencies risked their lives to defend the United States Capitol and protect Members of Congress and their staff,” Tillis said in a statement. “Prominently displaying this plaque in the United States Senate ensures their heroism and sacrifice are properly recognized.”

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  30. dazedandconfused says:

    @JohnSF:

    Yes. Both parties here abandoned their nomination process to populism. If there is anything clear about the thoughts of the founders it’s they were explicitly against that. The Executive was supposed to be selected solely by elites, not the “common clay of the American West”, as Mel Brooks phrased it. Funny how all the fine reading done of the Constitution today to preserve the imagined impeccable wisdom of The Holy Founders in areas like guns and taxation is never done with the process of selecting the POTUS, is it not?

    The issue of race here has no parallel in Europe, at least as far as I can tell. Think of the Teabaggers (now MAGAs). They honestly believed they cared about fixing healthcare when they were bagging, but they didn’t. They honestly believe they are concerned about deficits and such today, but they aren’t, not really. They are simply against Democrats because they had to suffer a black man as POTUS for eight years and can’t admit it. Not even, perhaps especially, to themselves.

    Anything like that in the EU?

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  31. JohnSF says:

    @dazedandconfused:
    Well, the anti-migrant neo-right are pretty damn racist.

    But Europe lacks the long-term structural politics of a racially distinct but large minority who (it seems to me) HAD to be defined as inferior to avoid categorising the Confederate South as a bunch of goons.
    The history is simply fundamentally different.

    As I’ve said before: Europeans can be racist as the next, if not more so.
    But their categories are NOT those of the US.
    See French and British astonishment at American military institutional racism in WW1 and WW2.

    European class politics could at times be as toxic as US race politics.
    But simply because of US (South) racially based slavery, there just was not the same long-standing and almost inherently accepted visually obvious cues for inferior/superior as a basic divide.
    Working class Europeans could thus be absorbed into middle class or even upper class society far more easily than Africn-Americans unless other Americans could ignore “race”.
    And a good many seem simply unable to have done so.

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  32. Kathy says:

    @JohnSF:

    I’ve been watching videos of restaurant chefs cooking restaurant meals. There’s a lot of technique involved. There’s also a lot of complex means for making mixes of flavors, like roasting beef bones for making stock (and making it takes hours). So I’ve a dim notion of the work involved.

    But what most recipes have in common is salt and fat, and a great deal of both. Mostly butter, but now and then lard or duck fat.

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  33. JohnSF says:

    @JohnSF:
    There has not been a non-white leading politician in any country in continental Europe apart from Portugal (Antonio Costa) that I’m aware of.
    (I may be wrong).

    But in the UK Rishi Sunak was PM, and though receiving plenty of criticism, little of it (apart from some Reform fringe nutters) had to do with race.
    Ditto Kemi Bdenoch, Leo Varadkar in Ireland, Humza Yousaf in Scotland, Vaughan Gething in Wales.

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  34. JohnSF says:

    @Kathy:
    The kitchen brigade system with chefs and sous chefs originating with Escoffier in France seems, amusingly, to have derived from his experience in the French army, and a quite systematic division of labour.
    So you get, in traditional French restaurant cuisine, a whole hierarchy of operations, starting with stock production, leading up to the production of finished dishes.

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  35. Kathy says:

    @JohnSF:

    The exhaustive list makes it seem more like a kitchen regiment.

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  36. JohnSF says:

    @JohnSF:
    I said about Lurestan being in on the verge of revolt?
    The flag of the Lion and the Sun is raised in Khorramabad
    This is not a minor thing.

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