Woman Mutilated By Obama Supporter Herself
The Drudge Report has this at the top fo the site, and also a picture. I’m now skeptical of this woman’s claims. The “B” is backwards. Perhaps her assaliant is horrifingly illiterate, but it could also be the result of injuring oneself by looking in the mirror.
Update: It has been pointed out in the comments that the attacker could have been standing above her once she was on the ground, thus explaining the backwards “B”.
Another commenter claims the title is biased and also slightly racist because there is no evidence that the assailant was an Obama supporter. Other than the attacker got angry after seeing the McCain-Palin sticker (so the victim claims), that of all things he could carve on her face he carved a “B”, and that even the Obama-Biden campaign issued a statement wishing the victim well and that the assailant is captured and brought to justice…assuming it is all true.
Update II: This also reminded me of an incident closer to where I live. A Claremont College Professor faked racial slurs on her car and ended up getting a year in jail.
Update III: Drudge is reporting she did it to herself. Color me shocked. Oh and for Defasdefbe, there clearly was no Obama Supporter, but it is also pretty clear that is most likely what this woman wanted us to think.
Or he was standing above her head as he did the carving. Or the photo is reversed.
Just tossing those out there.
The “B†is backwards
Or she was on the ground with the attacker above her head. The “B” would be correct if those were the positions.
The title of this post is a bit biased and bordering on racist, don’t you think? Who’s to say that the assailant was an Obama supporter? At the most, the facts in play show that the assailant disliked McCain. Is he an Obama supporter simply because he’s black?
There’s a 96% chance that is true.
And we’re sure that this was politically motivated? Just because the victim believes it was, doesn’t make it so.
And a 4% chance otherwise – but you go ahead and stereotype.
That is funny considering that I’m skeptical of the woman’s story.
Must be tough having such a bleak world view.
Oh another point that raised the needle on the Bravo Sierra meter was that the whole incident took place outside the range of the ATM camera.
I think it’s doubtful that the wound was self-inflicted. The article describes that the assault was captured on surveillance cameras.
What is doubtful, though, is the political motivation–there’s zero reason provided to believe that. (Indeed, it doesn’t look like the victim said anything to that effect.) The whole situation sounds like a typical ATM mugging to me.
Fortunately, it doesn’t look like her wounds were serious (she refused medical treatment). I hope that she heals well and is able to put this behind her.
It’s biased because you claim (with no evidence) that it was an Obama supporter. I’d assume that your connection was the same as the other commentor in that Obama is black and the assailant is black therefore he must be an Obama supporter given that the “victim” mentioned her McCain bumper sticker.
The title is biased, regardless of the rest of your post.
Defasdefbe, I have said none of the things you have ascribed. But thanks for playing.
Steve,
Whoops. Read the article too fast. It WAS outside the range of the cameras. So maybe my credulity is a bit too much right now. Still, I think I’m a little less skeptical about this. My only skepticism is about the alleged motivation.
So you are a mind reader? That wasn’t what I was thinking Kreskin.
Nope, I am just literate.
What is the title of this post?
Where did you get from the linked article that the assailant was an Obama supporter?
Be careful, your bias is showing.
Defasdefbe,
Your idiocy is showing. You claim to have known what I was thinking. That my conclusion that it was an Obama supporter was based on the assailants color. This is not true.
Basically you made an assumption, as I have done. Nothing more.
Grow up, and move out of your mother’s basement.
I suppose she beat herself about the eyes to give herself blackeyes also. What the f is wrong with you all? Are you so in the bag for Obama? The victim is no doubt lying because it may have been a Obama supporter who did it? I would have shot the perp multiple times had I viewed it.
What is “slightly racist”?
Similar to “partly pregnant”?
Or
Just more PC Bullshit in a country where it seems everyone in public life is accusing everyone else of some form of racism?
Kreskin
You made a logical leap possible only because of your bias.
And I moved out of my mom’s a while ago – to move in with your mom.
Notwithstanding the idiocy shown in this post, it’s clear who the assailant was. Look at the description – “6 foot 4 inch black man”. It’s clearly Obama. He wants to test exactly what he can get away with and STILL win the election 🙂
Seems to be the season. Here’s a story about an Obama worker being attacked (allegedly):
Obama Campaign Worker Allegedly Attacked
The current story would be better titled:
Woman Allegedly Mutilated By Obama Supporter
Don’t y’all think?
As previously noted, when someone can explain her shiner, then I MAY believe this is some kind of stunt.
Remember college republican Francisco Nava’s assault at Princeton?
http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2007/12/14/news/19743.shtml
Coming from another college republican, I think I’ll take this with a grain of salt, thank you.
LOL. Zelsdorf never disappoints: he goes from zero to crazy in one sentence as usual.
Don’t laugh, that was the claim about Prof. Paul Mirecki in Kansas in a similar incident. I was somewhat skeptical of that one too, but less so than this one. Oh, and those making the claims Mirecki beat himself: conservatives.
I despise Obama, I think that has been pretty obvious around here for some months. Before Defasdefbe gets on his/her racism-high-horse, I despise McCain too.
Defasdefbe,
No. I looked at the “B”, the claim that the alleged assailant supposedly became violent only after seeing the McCain-Palin bumper sticker. Of course, I’m doubtful of this story at the moment, so in reality there may have been no attacker and hence no Obama supporter.
Grandma?!?! Since when did you start reading OTB?
That’s pretty good penmanship and also the world’s dullest knife.
Or it could say:
Woman Alledly Mutilated By Alleged Obama Supporter
Look, I dont think Steve meant anything nefarious by the title… (Steve… hint… be a little more careful next time)
At the same point, there are psychos on both sides. As to whether there is this time???? Welll… all I can say is… It is a very wierd year.
Its incendiary. It may not be true. It definitely isn’t racist. I’d add ‘Don’t you think?’ but its already obvious you didn’t.
Whats wrong with defending a woman being attacked buy a mindless thug liberal, Are you against stopping muggings for sum dumb-ss philosophical reasons too?
If it’s a true story, it’s obviously a terrible, vicious act by a depraved idiot. Seriously, though, the guy was already a mugger. The political campaign didn’t cause him to deviate particularly deeply from his preexisting path.
That is, of course, if any of this is legit. Police forensics are very good. Let’s give this 24 hours and see what DNA and hair follicles the cops find.
There are a lot of strange parts to this picture that don’t add up, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t true.
Stop the Presses!
Reasoned Response from Michelle Malkin!
As Instaputz would say, read the whole thing.
People have shot themselves to fake attacks, so punching yourself in the face isn’t that drastic.
Not sure about the truth here, but I am skeptical.
However a McCain supporter really was beaten in september with the stick from the campaign sign, with cops, charges and all, but not nary a word from the MSM on that one.
“However a McCain supporter really was beaten in september with the stick from the campaign sign, with cops, charges and all, but not nary a word from the MSM on that one.”
These are the ones I didn’t hear about until the Ashley Todd thing made me curious enough to Google:
Man arrested in slashing of Obama campaigner
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/
2008/08/28/BAJO12KNGU.DTL&tsp=1
Obama Campaign Worker Allegedly Attacked
http://www.wisn.com/politics/17754232/detail.html
People are losing their tiny minds on both sides of this contest, I do believe.
The thing that bothers me most about the Ashley Todd case besides the mirror-image B is that her “fresh” black eye isn’t swollen. And the “big bad black attacker standing over her while she lies very still on the ground letting him scratch a lovely clear B onto her head” scenario is a bit on the hard to swallow side.
(Plus, Tawana Brawley went to my high school, so I got an early lesson in the lengths people will go when making sh*t up for their own reasons.)
When I first heard the story, I felt sorry for Ms. Todd, but when I saw the picture I changed my mind in a big hurry.
Man arrested in slashing of Obama campaigner story
I’ve held off on going with this story, because I don’t trust it for no reason I can point to. I could be wrong, but I’m just sitting back for the moment.
But I note with interest the relative silence over this story.
Is there a possibility that this girl is staging this or Obama is staging his grandmother being ill for sympathy? Yes. Most probably they aren’t. Both stories should be easy enough to check out but only one probably will be. They both should be given the benefit of a doubt until evidence shows otherwise. The backward B as stated previously isn’t backwards if looking down at her plus some uneducated people do write their B’s backward. Not saying he was uneducated but it is quite possible.
98% of blacks support Obama. This guy gets upset about seeing a McCain sticker and changes his mind about leaving and decides to beat and carve a B in this young girls face while lecturing her about being a McCain supporter. The vast majority of people who don’t support McCain support Obama. There have been threats from many in the black community warning of violence if Obama doesn’t get elected. Yep, there is no reason to think this guy was an Obama supporter (sarcasm). I understand considering unlikely possibilities but to say there is no reason to think this guy (assuming it happen as she said) was an Obama supporter is asinine. It is that kind of far reaching logic that got O.J. off. Maybe some are just scare that they will be call a racist for suggesting the most probable explanation.
Uh-oh. Looks like the story might not hold up.
And you were so confident, Wayne, that all of us are just scared idiots for doubting the story, when all along you, brimming with confidence, have proclaimed for all that there was an attacker who must be African-American and liberal because–duh!–most blacks support Obama and most are liberal. So simple.
You must feel pretty stupid right about now having displayed your bigotry for all to see. But then again, bigots never realize just how stupid they sound.
Eric from your link.
“Richard said Todd is still being considered the “victim” of an assault, and she noted that victims often tend to forget details of situations that happen to them under duress. “
There is nothing in the story that proves that she is lying. There are almost always inconstancies in recalling such events and between witnesses if present. As I said in my original post, it should be check out but just like the police officer said the assumption is she was attack until proven otherwise. You assume otherwise because it fits you agenda. If I was a big conspiracy theorist, I would be saying that the black Police Commissioner was playing politics. It’s possible right? Unlike many on the left I don’t make such claims without some solid evidence.
“have proclaimed for all that there was an attacker who must be African-Americanâ€
I said that because that was the description given in the story
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/17789356/detail.html
“The robber is described as a dark-skinned black man, 6 feet 4 inches tall, 200 pounds with a medium build, short black hair and brown eyesâ€
“bigots never realize just how stupid they soundâ€
I guess you don’t realize how stupid you sound. Many posters including myself have stated that they are open to the possibility that it could be a fake attack. However just like Obama Grandma Story I give both the benefit of a doubt. Unlike many on the left who claim for certainly any theory that fits their agenda.
You calling me a bigot for restating part of the story and disagreeing with you are just more examples on how quick your side is to pull out the race card.
Using Eric link
“You are going to be a Barack supporter,”
Again assuming for a second that her story is true, I can’t believe anyone can reasonably say that this assailant is not an Obama supporter. Maybe he is talking about another Barack or maybe a McCain supporter playing a joke on her. Get real. If she lying then there was no real assailant but if she isn’t.
Even Fox is backing off this “story”…
For what it’s worth, commenters at both Michelle Malkin and Salon who are familiar with that part of Liberty write that it’s a high traffic area, and that it’s unlikely that an assault of that duration would have gone unnoticed.
Just me, but I would have run to the first lighted business for help afterward.
The police are saying that the video at the ATM doesn’t show Ms. Todd there at all. Maybe she’s confused about the location. It’s a strange town for her.
Wayne, buddy, dial it back a bit. Recall what happened last time your partisanship carried you out on limb here. You know, “McCain did not stiff Letterman,” then McCain went on Letterman and confessed that he screwed up…You don’t want a replay of this, do you:
She admitted to making this story up.
Let’s lay that out for those with lazy link fingers:
We’re all waiting for the big bold type retraction of this headline.
And next up……
OBAMA STEALS WHITE WOMAN’S BABY
Well, Wayne, we tried to keep you from running off the cliff, but guys like you just can’t stop.
See, normal people back off stories like this till they play out a bit more, as these things often wind up being false, or greatly exaggerated. At a minimum, we don’t say things like, well, let’s give ’em both the benefit of the doubt–then go on a 142-word rant about how the story must be true and we’re all just afraid of being called racist, etc.
I suspect that you so desired that this story be true because it would have confirmed everything you irrationally suspect and hate about liberals. So it’s inconceivable that it couldn’t be true. Not only that, your partisan foaming-at-the-mouth then led you through a couple of seemingly logical “obvious” assumptions, culminating in the conclusion that the perpetrator must be African-American because the victim said so and–let’s face it–“98% of blacks support Obama.” QED. And when you do that, well, you just demonstrate to all your bigotry. And your lack of logic skills.
All in all, though, you totally miss the point. Even if the story had turned out to be true, whether the perpetrator had been black or an Obama supporter is only tangential to the fact that he would have been a criminal.
Next time don’t look at the shadows on the cave wall to tell what’s happening outside. Go outside and look.
Sam
As a stated from my first post “Both stories should be easy enough to check out†and “I understand considering unlikely possibilitiesâ€. My second post “Many posters including myself have stated that they are open to the possibility that it could be a fake attack.â€
I was open minded and consider that it may have been fake, unlike the left that wouldn’t even consider the possibility that it might have happen. Also “if†what she said was true to say that there was no indication that it was an Obama supporter is asinine. Just because something turns out to be a lie doesn’t mean all your reasoning against it was accurate.
Regardless calling someone a bigot because he thought she “may†be telling the truth is slimy.
I don’t have a link to that thread you referring to. However what Letterman claim McCain said and what McCain did say was quite different. Letterman claim that McCain stated “he was suspending his campaign and rushing back to Washington immediately†when it was all over the Press prior including tape remarks that he was suspending it the next morning.
I don’t watch letterman anymore. Did McCain say he “screw up†or as you seem to be claiming that he told Dave that when he said “he was suspending his campaign and rushing back to Washington immediately†that it was a screw up. I don’t know if McCain called David personally or not. Any links to it? Yes David Letterman has a liberal agenda to take into consideration when listening to his claims. I’m not a big McCain fan. Way too often he submits to the MSM instead of standing up to them even when he is right.
If he stood up to them he would probably be called racist and a bigot.
I didn’t call you a bigot because you thought the story could possibly true. It was your “obvious” abstractions from the disputed facts that revealed it.
Eric you need to learn how to read. The perpetrator was identified in the story as black. List one comment where I said the story was true. I did say I would give her the benefit of a doubt until I learn more which is not the same as saying the story was true. I also said it should be check out. The 142 words were to point out your faulty logic process not to prove the story was “trueâ€.
There are many stories including those links above that show liberals misbehaviors. Your assumption about my assumptions shows your prejudice and faulty logic. Again the perpetrator was identified in the story as black, the perpetrator was identified in the story as black, the perpetrator was identified in the story as black. I did not pull that at of thin air as you are claiming.
Try this Wayne:
McCain Suspends Campaign to ‘Work on the Economy’
Moron.
Police: McCain volunteer made up robbery story
Sam
Thanks for the link. I was right in my comments. Examples
“Sam getting your political points from David Letterman explains your delusional perspective. McCain said “Tomorrow morning, I will suspend my campaign and return to Washington after speaking at the Clinton Global Initiativeâ€. The interviewed by Katie Couric happen before the plan campaign suspension. Also when McCain says “suspend my campaign†he probably means personally not Palin, most campaign staff and such. “
and
“Sam
“If Letterman didn’t know about the suspension, then the guy’s a freaking psychicâ€
The Late Show with David Letterman is tape at 4:30 p.m.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Show_with_David_Letterman
It was all over the news and on the Drudge report long before then.â€
Pretty much on target and is pretty much what I said I thought I said in my previous post to you.
Steve. Your original headline lent credence to this nonsense. You screwed up. It happens. Accept it and move on. Name calling at this point is weak.
The value you lend to this blog is incalculable.
I hope they prosecute her for falsely reporting a crime.
Of course if I was right version of most left troll, I would be saying things like “she was force by harsh interrogation to change her storyâ€, â€the police are corrupt†,or “she was confuse and change her story to get the harsh pressure off of herâ€, possible but not likely. Reporters should look into it but with some of the release evidence so far it is unlikely they will uncover anything. I figure there was a fair chance with the ATM and possibly security cameras from stores that the truth would evidently be reveal.
But of course, since you are a righty troll, you are simply marginally literate.
Stop digging Wayne your just making yourself look that much dumber.
Commenters calling each other morons is par for the course, but one of this blog’s authors calling a commenter a moron for pointing out that said author overstepped is poor form, indeed.
No, that’s what she wanted those biased to the right to think – and you were taken in, hook line and sinker. Anyone with a shred of objectivity realized that she was full of it from the beginning.
I used to enjoy your posts on this site, but you have shown your true colors in this one – calling people morons and idiots is fine if you are one of the other moronic commenters on the site, but the blog author should have more class.
Sadly, you do not. When someone challenges you, you immediately resort to name calling and other ad hominem attacks. You do realize that the visitors to this site pay for the site via the ads that we all view. And if you continue to attack us visitors, we might stop coming to the site?
Grow up and get thicker skin.
So many liberals think that anyone that doesn’t agree with them is an idiot. Liberals seldom argue the facts but call names and throw insults.
Not when you stop and consider that all of the authors here have jobs, can’t monitor the news 24/7 nor be on the site to update it to suite commenters desires. That belief is sheer stupidity. This is obvious with about 3 seconds of thought. It is why I usually allow at least 6 to 8 hours for people to respond to some new development before spouting off like an idiot.
Further, the implication of Jeffery’s post was that I was either chicken to post an update or not honest enough to do so or even both. The reality was I was stuck in a two hour long meeting that was mandantory so I didn’t get out till after 2PM east coast time and had to get some work done before I could even check up on the story. I did check for new news last night and early this morning, but nothing new was out yet. However, once I saw the item at Drudge I immediately posted an update.
Considering that I was skeptical immediately after seeing the picture and stated so in the very short initial post I reject this view.
Yes, and that was what I wrote. I wrote that I was skeptical of the story. When it was also learned that the whole event supposedly took place outside the range of the ATM camera I was even more skeptical.
As for being on the right, you once again demonstrate your ignorance. I’m not conservative, a Republican, nor on the “right” unless you describe “right” as anyone who doesn’t think like/agree with Defasdefbe.
I don’t believe you. If you read my posts you’d know I was neither a Left nor Right Winger.
Now that’s funny.
Reject all you want. You are wrong. All you had to do was insert “allegedly” into the headline and you would have been on solid ground.
If I run a headline that says “Candidate X a serial killer” but say something in my copy about how I am dubious that Candidate X is really a serial killer, I am a hack.
So what is it? Are you someone to be taken seriously, or a hack?
What a mess of a young woman. I wonder what her parents think.
Y’all, calls for a lynching!!! Oh, never mind, cut him down. My bad. You’ve been had you bigots!
Where? I haven’t seen any of these announcements…