New Audio Reveals Trump Is Okay With Lewd Comments About His Daughter
Predictably, the revelation of an audiotape in which he is recorded making lewd comments about women is leading to the revelation of other past comments by Donald Trump that are certain to become an issue in the coming days. This afternoon, for example, CNN is out with excerpts from Trump’s past appearances with Howard Stern in which he appears to be perfectl0y comfortable with similar comments about his own daughter:
Donald Trump engaged in crude and demeaning conversations about women over a 17-year-period with radio shock-jock Howard Stern, according to a review by CNN’s KFile of hours of newly uncovered audio.
Among the topics Trump discussed: his daughter Ivanka’s physique, having sex with women on their menstrual cycles, threesomes, and checking out of a relationship with women after they turn 35.
Trump’s long track record of making misogynistic comments and engaging in lewd conversations about sex took on a new and much darker tone on Friday night, when the “Washington Post” published audio of Trump, caught on a hot mic in 2005, bragging about how women let him do whatever he wants to them because he’s a celebrity.
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In more than one interview with Stern, Trump took part in conversations about Ivanka Trump’s appearance, including one about the size of her breasts.
In an October 2006 interview, Stern remarks that Ivanka “looks more voluptuous than ever,” and asked if she had gotten breast implants. Trump is willing to engage in the discussion about his own daughter, telling Stern that she did not get implants.
“She’s actually always been very voluptuous,” Trump responds. “She’s tall, she’s almost 6 feet tall and she’s been, she’s an amazing beauty.”
In another interview, from September 2004, Stern asks Trump if he can call Ivanka “a piece of ass,” to which Trump responds in the affirmative.
“My daughter is beautiful, Ivanka,” says Trump.
“By the way, your daughter,” says Stern.
“She’s beautiful,” responds Trump.
“Can I say this? A piece of ass,” Stern responds.
“Yeah,” says Trump.
Here are the audio clips
There’s more at the link regarding Trump’s comments about women that I’m sure will offend most people, but his comments about his daughter come across as particularly troubling, especially given the fact that he’s made other such comments about her in the past:
On March 6, 2006, to promote The Apprentice, Donald Trump and his daughter Ivanka appeared on ABC talk show The View. Cohost Star Jones kicked off the interview by asking what Mr. Trump would do if Playboy put Ivanka on the cover of its magazine.
“This is going to be an interesting answer,” Ivanka, in a moment of foresight, predicted.
“I don’t think Ivanka would do that [pose for nude photographs] inside the magazine,” Trump says, speaking for his daughter. “Although she does have a very nice figure. I’ve said that if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps, I would be dating her.”
And then, as the words he had just spoken formed meaning in his mind, Trump asked: “Is that terrible?”
Joy Behar asks “Who are you, Woody Allen?” Everyone laughs, including Donald Trump, who remarks “That’s very good.” To be fair, Trump has so far avoided marrying his daughter, unlike Allen, who has been a very interesting Google alert subject for the last year and a half.
In response to this comments on The View, Trump’s people issued a statement that the Donald was “absolutely joking” and “making fun of himself for his tendency to date younger women.” This would not be the last time Trump’s people issued a clarifying statement.
Here’s the video:
I suspect that this is only the beginning of the revelations about Trump’s past comments during his three decades as a media celebrity.
The floodgates.
The Teflon is gone.
From the CNN article:
Again, there is a civil suit against Donald Trump alleging he raped a 13-year-old girl.
I’m probably wrong, but I have the feeling Pence is going to bail and try to salvage some shreds of his dignity. Otherwise the rest of his campaign will consist of him either saying he can’t defend Trump’s comments or trying to justify the fact that his boss is a total pig.
This stuff has been around for ages…did no one on Pence’s team think about this before he accepted the job? Where was the opposition research you’re supposed to do on your own team? When I worked in politics, that was standard, job 1. “What can my opponent dig up about me” was asked of every single candidate.
The only thing more baffling than Trump’s behavior is the number of Republicans surprised by it.
There is a conspiracy theory going around that Ivana stepped out on Trump and Trump knows Ivanka is not his physical daughter. Some people say…
I’m not buying it, but it does explain why Trump seems to have this troubling kind of yearning for his daughter. I don’t have a daughter, but I have a sister and I know I would never allow a man to refer to my sister that way.
Maybe I’m wrong, though, and other fathers with daughters can weigh in on this.But I’ve never heard of any father refer to his daughter in that way or allow a man to call his daughter a piece of a$$.
@stonetools:
I am the father of a daughter, and one of my jobs as such is swinging a nice piece of lead pipe into the skulls of men who refer to her that way.
Trump never advanced beyond a typical adolescent male view of women: A life support system for a vagina. I would guess the primary reason was always being wealthy enough to indulge gold-diggers.
Heh heh….
New Video & Audio… but from Carly Simon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKaiedK9SFc
@stonetools: @michael reynolds: Hey, dudes, just calm down. Don’t you know that “All men talk that way”? Even, apparently, about their 22-year-old daughters?
@Jen:
I don’t know that they’re surprised so much as despondent that it actually came out in public. The NeverTrump Republicans are saying, with considerable justification, that all this information was available all along.
The Trumpkins are, by the way, defending this as “just entertainment.” I would not, by the way, care to be the daughter of a man who found it amusing for me to be called a “piece of ass.”
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Teach Your Children Well
You, who are on the road
Must have a code that you can live by
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDknDWp-elE
Thank You Crosby, Stills, Nash, Young, Bruce Springsteen, Tom Petty, Robin Williams, Don Henley and Timothy B Schmidt
Trump supporters: “yes but … Bill Clinton!”
Also, calm down everyone, he was only 60 years old when he made these remarks about his daughter.
@stonetools:
How many fathers do you know who are psychotic narcissists?
I don’t think people have quite come to grips with how deranged and narcissistic Trump is.
Dear Donald,
Hi, I’m a registered sex offender. As I watch the news and read articles online about the recent 2005 audio recording where you talk about groping women because “you’re a star”, I thought, as one offender to another, I would reach out in some fashion. The likelihood that you will see this is incredibly low and I have no expectations for it to do so, but I can’t just sit here anymore and listen to this without saying something.
Just to give you background on myself, I use to be in a position of power and authority as well. I never thought much of it back then, but it plays an incredible role in what I did. On the night that will haunt me forever, I touched a young woman because I thought given my position it would be ok. It was almost immediate that I realized how wrong I was in that moment. I tried to justify things in my head, but none of it made sense because there’s no way it could. From that moment I had permanently stained my hands, and waves of guilt will always be in my mind.
I had 2 choices in that moment: I could lie about it or I could come clean. Knowing that lying about it would have ripped me apart, I confessed what I did. To my family, to my friends, to this young woman’s family, and eventually to the police. I turned myself in, and I accepted any and all punishment that the court thought necessary. As I barely can live with myself with what I’ve done, I do everything I can to make up for it.
So when I heard about this recording, and more importantly when I heard about your response to it, all I could think was:
What. The. Hell.
In what way does justifying it by saying “it was locker room talk” even remotely ok to say, let alone think it’s good enough as an apology. Saying that you can grab a woman, in any way, because you’re a star is not locker room talk, it’s the mindset of a repeated offender. There are a lot of things about you I cannot explain or even understand, but this takes the cake. By calling it “locker room talk”, not only do you negate any previous apologies about it you’ve made but statements like this re-enforce the idea that women are nothing more than sexual objects. There are people now actually trying to defend you by saying grabbing a woman’s genitals is not sexual assault, or that this is overblown because “everybody knows that Trump likes women”. These defenses and statements only hurt the growing movement of women equality that this generation and generations before it have been striving so hard for.
Given this lackluster excuse and several moments of what you truly think of women, which has been available for everyone in the world to see and show as proof, how can anyone expect anything different if you became President? There is staggering long list of reasons why you should never get close to that position of power, but for me this is one of the biggest. Not just because these comments are deplorable, not just because your reaction to it all is pathetic and inexcusable, but there is too great of a chance that you could take this nation and brush away all of its progress in equality as easily as you brush the pathetic excuse you call hair.
From one offender to another
Why is it that Trump is warped and perverted for talking about grabbing pusee but Bill Clinton is NOT after physically doing the same to 7 or 8 women who have accused him of sexual dalliances and him admitting to it with some?
Whats the difference between Bill Cosby and Bill Clinton or Tiger Woods? The numbers? Or the charm? How do you people get so upset and apoplectic over words but totally give BC the hall pass on his obvious deviancy?
As a life long Democrat, I was sickened by his behavior in office and he should have resigned in shame, but of course, boomers can’t admit f-ups so he just lied his way through.
If Bill resigns, Gore becomes President for two years and NO WAY LOSES TO THE MORON W.
Instead, Gore awkwardly ignores the philanderer and there goes Florida. And here comes Cheney and the Iraq war fiasco.
With Bernie, you would have none of this drama, and a socialist democrat as President. Hilary just lucky to run against the most distasteful candidate since Aaron Burr.
Thanks Hillary slurpers. I won’t let you forget her corruption.
@the Q:
Consent.
Why is this so hard?