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Steven L. Taylor
About Steven L. Taylor
Steven L. Taylor is a retired Professor of Political Science and former College of Arts and Sciences Dean. His main areas of expertise include parties, elections, and the institutional design of democracies. His most recent book is the co-authored A Different Democracy: American Government in a 31-Country Perspective. He earned his Ph.D. from the University of Texas and his BA from the University of California, Irvine. He has been blogging since 2003 (originally at the now defunct Poliblog). Follow Steven on Twitter

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  1. CSK says:

    I read somewhere yesterday that the alternatives to Gaetz presented to Trump were even more appalling than Gaetz himself.

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  2. Jen says:

    @CSK: More appalling than a member of Congress being investigated by his peers for drug-fueled parties with minors, who has a close friend serving 11 years in prison for sex trafficking? Huh.

    My shocked face –> 😐

    Gaetz resigned to prevent the House Ethics Committee report from being released. He’ll have to go through a background check/investigation for the Senate confirmation process, as will any others.

    Most of his House colleagues are glad to see him gone.

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  3. SC_Birdflyte says:

    I can hardly wait for the next announcement. Will it be MTG for Secretary of Education or Lauren Boebert for Secretary of HHS? Or perhaps Eric Adams for Secretary of Transportation?

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  4. CSK says:

    @Jen:

    The article didn’t give any indication who these people are, but they must be truly horrifying if Gaetz was the best of the bunch.

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  5. CSK says:

    @SC_Birdflyte:

    Trump is said to favor Todd Blanche, his lawyer in the hush money case, for deputy atty. general.

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  6. Kathy says:

    @CSK:

    I’m guessing one of the hardcore neo nazis, like leaders of the proud infants, even those in prison, or Nick Fuentes, or some other human shaped trash like that.

    Or maybe Kanye West.

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  7. Slugger says:

    Doris Kearns Goodwin is still around. This Trump cabinet has the potential to eclipse her Team of Rivals book. This contemporary story will astound, shock, and nauseate. A sure winner. Start writing, Doris.

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  8. Not the IT Dept. says:

    @Slugger:

    Disagree. Only Stephen King can do justice to this cabinet.

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  9. Tony W says:

    This is what happens when you alienate all the good, decent people, you’re left with the residue of the party who can’t function in normal society.

    That said, I’m done protesting, arguing, and otherwise attempting to buffer the impact.

    Vote for MAGA, get MAGA.

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  10. Jen says:

    The Onion has purchased Infowars at auction.

    Via the NYT, and not The Onion.

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  11. Stormy Dragon says:

    The Onion bought Alex Jones’s Infowars (the proceeds go to the Sandy Hook families): https://theonion.com/heres-why-i-decided-to-buy-infowars/

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  12. CSK says:

    According to NBC, The Onion has won the bankruptcy auction for Alex Jones’s Infowars. They’ll rebuild it into a humor site.

    Maybe they’ll call it OnionWars.

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  13. SC_Birdflyte says:

    Since Biden has immunity, if I were in his position, I would immediately declassify all materials in the hands of Jack Smith and Judge Chutkan, have my staff copy them, and deliver the copies to a bank vault in Delaware. These are too important to be let go.

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  14. JohnSF says:

    @Not the IT Dept.:
    The Cabinet of Dr Cagliari?

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  15. CSK says:

    @Jen:

    You win the breaking news competition. 😀

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  16. Kathy says:

    @CSK:

    Apparently they want to make a parody of what Jones’ site was. So they could go with MisinfoWars, with host Axel Hones. The problem is that a parody of misinformation can come across as misinformation. But at least they should be safe from being sued successfully.

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  17. Michael Reynolds says:

    On another thread we briefly discussed whether Lindsay Graham could ever, even for a day, grow a spine.

    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) pleaded with fellow Republicans to back Donald Trump’s choice as attorney general, Matt Gaetz, after initially sounding skeptical about the bombshell pick.

    Appearing on Fox News’ Hannity on Wednesday, Graham said: “To every Republican, give Matt a chance.”

    His remark came amid a growing rebellion from GOP ranks over the surprise decision. Several Republican senators openly showed their disdain, saying it wasn’t a “serious” appointment.

    I take it as a given that Graham is closeted and terrified – has been terrified for his entire life – of being outed. He knows Trump won’t hesitate to call him queer.

    In a related matter, some people suggest that Putin could not blackmail Trump because what could possibly embarrass Trump? How about video of his fat ass humping away on a 14 year-old? I’m not suggesting that happened, just correcting the naive idea that nothing could be used to blackmail Trump. As well as the naive idea that Lindsay Graham is a vertebrate.

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  18. DK says:

    @CSK: Question is, appalling to whom? Appears Trump would be appalled by any list not full of criminals, rapists, pedophiles, and Putin puppets.

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  19. CSK says:

    @DK:

    Beats me. Maybe Diddy?

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  20. Mister Bluster says:

    Onion buys Info Wars!
    NPR

    Can we believe it?

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  21. Jen says:

    Melania will apparently be skipping the move to the White House this time around.

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  22. de stijl says:

    In lighter news, this morning right after waking up, I needed to relieve myself and my urine was this shocking odd shade of electric orangish yellow.

    It took me several minutes to realize that I made curry last night for dinner. Apparently, I went a bit heavy on the turmeric. Apparently, turmeric doesn’t metabolize very well.

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  23. de stijl says:

    @Mister Bluster:

    Genius move by The Onion, if true.

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  24. Grommit Gunn says:

    Seen elsewhere: “I’m absolutely shocked that Hulk Hogan was passed over for AG.”

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  25. CSK says:

    @Jen:

    Yeah, apparently she’s going to live at Trump Tower to babysit Barron while he attends NYU. I’d say this was going waaaay overboard with the helicopter parenting, but she’s probably using the kid as an excuse to stay as far apart as she can from Donald.

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  26. Mister Bluster says:

    @CSK:…Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner!

    Yes@Jen: gets the scoop! In my haste to post the news I scanned the thread too quickly.

    Edit: Now I see that I missed 3 posts in a row on this matter. This blindness should be worth a position in the Trump administration. I’ll carry a lamp in the daylight and look for an honest man.
    Wait. What? Someone did that already. Did he find one?

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  27. Joe says:

    @Michael Reynolds: I heard some Republican suggesting on NPR this morning that Hegseth should be given a chance at DoD on the strength of the fact that he’s a veteran. Really, that sole credential is his basis?

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  28. Kathy says:

    @Michael Reynolds:

    I think there are three distinct categories about what can embarrass the felon and how effective it is:

    1) What can embarras him? plenty. He’s a weak narcissist with an inferiority complex. How many times have you heard in the news that he said “this makes me look weak”? Or bad? Or it makes the country look like that? All that embarrasses him. We’ve even seen him embarrassed plenty of times, but he looks sullen when that happens (and any flushing can’t make it past his makeup). See when he half walked back his “fine people on both sides” idiocy. That’s the felon deeply embarrassed.

    2) What embarrasses him that can hurt him politically? Again, plenty. Just not as much as you’d think. The bit about injecting bleach, the piles of COVID corpses, beyond embarrassing him, also cost him the 2020 election. it’s a sad commentary on your country that this did not end his political life, though.

    3) What embarrasses him that can hurt him with his base. Nothing. Or, more precisely, nothing we’ve seen yet. The closest was when he was booed a couple of times at his rallies for suggesting taking the COVID shot.

    BTW, the reason he never openly conceded is that a concession would make him look weak. Not because he in any way shape or form really believes he won. Look for him to downplay his small margin int he popular vote if it gets mentioned in the media.

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  29. de stijl says:

    I’ve seed that Alina Habba is being floated as Press Secretary. Nor nearly as consequential or potentially significant as Secretary for Defense, Director of National Intelligence, or Attorney General, but significant.

    The trolling trend continues, but I see this morning she’s turning it down. If she took the job, she’d actually get paid unlike many Trump hirelings.

    Jill Stein for SecState? Forget Habba, Alex Jones for Press Secretary! He’s tanned, rested, and ready – and looking for a new gig. Nick Fuentes for DHS! Why tf not? RFK, Jr. for HHS!

    Who needs subject matter expertise, credentials, professional experience, integrity, or the ability to pass a simple security background check?

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  30. DeD says:

    @SC_Birdflyte:

    C’mon now, SC; you know all Black GOP cabinet prospects go to HUD. \s

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  31. charontwo says:

    @CSK:

    The idea is Gaetz is incompetent, can’t do much damage. Whereas someone like Ken Paxton would have the knowledge and ability to be really awful. Ken White/Popehat argument.

    Take, for instance, appointing Representative Matt Gaetz to be the Attorney General of the United States. If this is a sincere appointment — in other words, if it isn’t a head-fake to get the Senate to accept another candidate later, or a ruse to let Gaetz resign from Congress and avoid a damaging ethics report1 — it’s an example of self-indulgence thwarting malign intent. Gaetz is a buffoon. He has absolutely no qualifications to run the Department of Justice. Can he wander around firing everyone? Yes. Does he understand how the Department of Justice works in a way that would allow him to maximize its potential for abuse? No. Is he smart enough to figure it out? Also no. Is he charismatic enough to persuade insiders to help him use it effectively? Very much no. Gaetz as Attorney General will do petty, flamboyant, stupid things in clumsy ways. Some of those things will be very bad. But clown shoes are preferable to jackboots. We’d be in much more trouble if someone evil in a smart and competent way who understands how the machine works — say, Jeff Clark or Ken Paxton — took over. That would be terrifying.

    Popehat

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  32. charontwo says:

    @charontwo:

    Some more from the link:

    Trump’s decision shows his tendency to vent his spleen. Appointing Gaetz owns the libs, humiliates the hated Justice Department, elevates someone who is a vulgar elbow-thrower like him, and is a thumb in the eye to the Republicans who hate Gaetz. It’s not a decision reflecting self-control; it’s a decision reflecting unconstrained anger and resentment. It’s like making your horse a Senator. The point isn’t that the horse will vote the way you want it to. The point is to humiliate the senate and show them you can do what you want. It’s bad, but it’s not smart bad.

    Many of Trump’s appointments so far seem to be made out of frailty and not out of calculation. Kristi Noem at Homeland Security is a lightweight whose dubious competence will interfere with plans to genocide immigrants. Pete Hegseth’s chief qualification to be Secretary of Defense is that Trump saw him on the teevee a lot and his tattoos are not, technically, Nazi symbols. Mike Huckabee is a wholly owned trademark of Jack Chick Enterprises Inc. All of these people are ostentatiously evil and shame the institutions they will lead and are a disgrace to the Republic and so forth but do they have the skills or patience to achieve their weird goals? Institutions are very difficult to change. The populist sentiment “send in an outsider and have them clean house” requires an outsider smart and disciplined enough to overcome the fact they don’t understand what they’re changing. Otherwise the inside stubbornly and passive-aggressively thwarts the outsider. You can burn the institution to the ground but that doesn’t leave you with an institution you can use effectively as a weapon.

    Trump’s choice of all of these people reflects his resentments and pathologies and insecurities and those of his closest advisors. Plus these nominees all have their own issues. Do you think Matt Gaetz is going to work the hours necessary to not just learn DoJ but run it in detail? All of the interns are college graduates. Does Kristi Noem strike you as someone who handles stress well? Does war crimes enthusiast Pete Hegseth have the people skills to manage the viper’s nest that’s the Pentagon?

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  33. Kathy says:

    Small bit of good news. Monday is a holiday, so I may just find time to finish writing a story. This means I need to cook something that takes little time. By this I mean a quick prep. The actual cooking time doesn’t matter if I can just let the stuff to cook unattended.

    I’m thinking therefore chicken chilaquiles with caramelized onions. Beans with soy chorizo and sauteed onions on the side. I’m sure to be half dissatisfied all next week about this…

    The upside of re-watching an old show, is that I can delay an installment or two as needed, since I’m not dying to know what happens next.

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  34. JKB says:

    If you are seeking to understand the realignment that comes with this last election.

    This opinion by Henry Olsen will help “Donald Trump’s dominant 2024 election win was only a shock to the smug elites”

    The American people see no contradiction between traditional norms and human liberty and diversity.

    They want freedom and responsibility.

    The American people want a government that respects all Americans’ livelihoods, not one that showers favored classes with tax breaks and subsidies and overloads people who don’t graduate from college with taxes, regulations and sneering.

    Most of all, the American people are tired of those with high incomes and secure lives telling them their lives are inferior.

    “All men are created equal” means equal opportunity, equal treatment under the law and equal respect.

    The American people know Trump, for all his faults, shares their values.

    And they know that for all their learning and power, the media, government and academic classes largely don’t.

    Trump and his vice president-elect, JD Vance, have the opportunity to usher in a fifth Great Realignment, one that will take the new Republican plurality among voters — the first since 1932! — and make it a new American majority.

    The renewal of the American dream.

    The party flip is well underway. Look for Mitt Romney and such to swing Democrat and more of the non-white working class to move toward Trump/New Republican in 2026.

    https://nypost.com/2024/11/06/opinion/the-2024-election-results-only-came-as-a-shock-to-clueless-elites-and-the-mainstream-media/

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  35. Jen says:

    @charontwo: Yeah, this is a notion that has been occupying my thought process since late yesterday.

    Trump nominates Gaetz, Gaetz steps down from Congress to avoid a damaging ethics report release. He then fails to secure the nomination because he’s a buffoon. Trump has rewarded Gaetz by nominating him–checks off the list. Trump then turns around and nominates Paxton or someone like him, who the Senate actually will confirm.

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  36. Skookum says:

    Well, all I can say it that Trump wants to rub non-MAGA noses in the ashes of America as he destroys it for his vanity and personal wealth.

    On the personal front:

    1. Had my hair cut yesterday. The stylist said that now that Trump was elected perhaps she could buy a house. I kept my mouth shut, as I was in shock from the appointments of Gaetz and Gabbard, and what pretty sure she wouldn’t know who they were. But I did commiserate that we wouldn’t likely see the years of post-2008 interest rates again in our lifetime (unless we have another recession). She readily admitted that she didn’t understand economics, but something was terribly wrong when home mortgage rates were 7.5%.

    2. Someone liked some of my 2017 FB posts made after Trump was elected and American Carnage began to unfold. It was someone with a fake profile (no friends, lots of pretty boy pictures, etc.) I’m used to getting friend requests from fake profiles, but why would someone only like these particular comments made over 7 years ago? It wasn’t a friend request.

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  37. de stijl says:

    @JohnSF:

    A Confederacy Of Dunces.

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  38. CSK says:

    “If Donald Trump says ‘jump three feet high and scratch your head. We all jump three feet high and
    scratch our heads.” — Rep. Troy Nehls

    Talk about groveling.

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  39. becca says:

    I watched the documentary The Truth Versus Alex Jones on MAX a while back. Deep interviews with the family of those slaughtered children. Lots of background about Sandy Hook and aftermath. Alex Jones is a monster, his own words told the story. When you see him in the courtroom, he lies so transparently and outrageously you want to smack that jowly stubbly smirk off his florid face.
    Anyway, I saw he was pissed as hell about the Onion sale. I hope he strokes out.

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  40. Michael Reynolds says:

    It will be harder for Trump to cause the kind of chaos he wants domestically. He’s not going to deport a million aliens because that is a logistical, legal, diplomatic and economic nightmare. They’ll make a show of it, it will collapse in disorder, and Trump will declare victory because he ejected two dozen gangbangers. The immigrants will pause to consider, but then illegals will flow again because the rewards are simply too great, and, crucially, because we need them. Literally everyone who has looked seriously at the issue knows the answer is to impose heavy sanctions on US companies who hire undocumented people. And that’s not happening because there is simply too much profit in having vast numbers of legally precarious workers.

    They will certainly make life harder for trans folk. Federal facilities will try to enforce restrictions on trans people, and I expect an assault on trans ID’s and Passports, with the self-defeating result of making it harder for trans people to GTFO of Arkansas, or the USA. Trans folk are the new Jews.

    Don’t get me wrong, Gaetz will manage to turn the DoJ into a laughingstock. But it’s in the foreign policy area that Trump will do serious, lasting, very likely deadly damage. No foreign intel operation will share info with Tulsi Gabbard unless it’s with the goal of feeding disinformation to the Russians. We will become significantly more vulnerable to terrorist attack, both domestically and internationally.

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  41. Michael Reynolds says:

    @JKB:
    Dude, calm down. Trump got 50.1% of the vote. Kamala got 48.1%. That’s a 2% difference.

    2% ain’t a revolution. And if you think that 2% is somehow rock solid, um, no it’s not. Trump’s big hope, and yours, is that he can end elections and pull off a coup before MAGA is vomited up by a disappointed population.

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  42. Franklin says:

    My old high school buddy, who voted for Trump because reasons, still thought this was funny enough to pass on:

    “We are 3 seconds away from the My Pillow Guy becoming Surgeon General”

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  43. de stijl says:

    I read Trump’s appointees as “we want to be loudly ineffectual”.

    Imagine a clownshoe stamping on your face for four years.

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  44. Scott says:

    @JKB: This is nonsense. This is more grievance politics and erroneous assertions of what the “American People” want.

    No, this was not a dominant victory. Winning 50.2% of the vote is not dominant.

    Blaming everyone else for their lives is not the definition of responsibility.

    Trump does not share anyone’s values unless those values are self-centered and amoral.

    No one is telling anyone their lives are inferior except those yelling DEI at people they hate.

    And who is Henry Olsen? Oh, yes:

    Mr. Olsen started his career as a political consultant at the California firm of Hoffenblum-Mollrich. He then worked with the California State Assembly Republican Caucus before attending law school. He served as a law clerk to the Honorable Danny J. Boggs on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit and as an associate at Dechert, Price & Rhoads. He has a B.A. from Claremont McKenna College and a J.D. from the University of Chicago Law School, where he served as Comment Editor for the University of Chicago Law Review.

    One of those sneering upper class people who depend on wealthy benefactors to keep him living the style he thinks he deserves and who looks down on the rest of us.

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  45. Kathy says:

    @CSK:

    Freedom is Slavery, don’t you know.

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  46. Kathy says:

    I think what happened on November 5th, 2024 (a date that will live in infamy) was akin to the definition Ambrose Bierce gives for Manicheism in The Devil’s Dictionary:

    MANICHEISM -n. The ancient Persian doctrine of an incessant warfare between Good and Evil. When Good gave up the fight the Persians joined the victorious Opposition.

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  47. Matt Bernius says:

    @JKB:

    “Donald Trump’s dominant 2024 election win”

    I know this is the title of the piece from the post, but again, I just don’t see how (as we get more data) we can consider it a “dominant win.” Unless of course, the argument is based on the fact that 2016 wasn’t a “dominant win” and 2020 was an outright loss for the Donald.

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  48. Jay L Gischer says:

    I thought it worth mentioning that last night I couldn’t sleep, and was watching YouTube instead. Up popped an ad with Art Laffer, with the hook, “Have you ever heard of a country that taxed itself into prosperity?”

    I clicked “Skip” as fast as I could, but still.

    Art Laffer.

    Still pitching his garbage. I don’t even know what he was selling. Maybe a book? A website? A “training course”?

    Crazy.

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  49. Scott says:

    @Jay L Gischer: Have you ever heard of a country that collected no taxes being prosperous?

    I hate nonsense like this. It contributes nothing.

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  50. Lucysfootball says:

    @Michael Reynolds: Whatever Trump has on Graham, it has to be something considerably worse than just being a closeted homosexual. I assume it is a given that Lindsey is gay. IMO he would still easily win in SC. I’ve said this as a joke, but I’m starting to think it’s true, it involves a goat and latex.

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  51. just nutha says:

    @JKB: The guy who
    * Had his employees mark rental applications from minorities “C”
    * Identified neo-Nazi racists in Charlottesville saying “there are good people on both sides
    * Complains that US immigration policy welcomes people from “shit hole countries” and that these people are poisoning our nation and compares them to vermin
    (I could go on but I won’t)
    has no understanding of or belief in “traditional norms and human liberty and diversity.”

    For Henry Olson (who ever he is) to offer DJT as “[the] usher [of] a fifth Great Realignment, one that will take the new Republican plurality among voters — the first since 1932! — and make it a new American majority” is quackery.

    That JKB cites this quack establishes him or her as just another internet random spouting nonsense. Be Best, JKB! Your own words shame you.

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  52. Lucysfootball says:

    If Gaetz goes through the confirmation process I think every question from Democrats should include the allegations that he had sex with underage girls and he used illegal drugs. It has to be hammered home. I went to college with a few guys like Gaetz, they usually flunked out or in some cases were kicked out.

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  53. just nutha says:

    @Jen: A Senate that would confirm Paxton…
    [Checks notes]
    …meh, never mind. A Senate that can confirm Garland can easily make a similar mistake.
    [shrug emoji]

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  54. de stijl says:

    @Kathy:

    My strategy is to do a big batch of something like chili, or curry, or even sloppy joes on one day and then bask in the results in the resulting easy meals down the road.

    Make some rice or whatever side as needed and heat up the main in a pan or microwave that you’ve already done.

    Put 90% of the effort into one big batch of something you like, and then just coast on that for the next few days of easy meal prep. Plus it makes decision-making analysis paralysis out of the picture – I have a big batch of curry in the fridge. I need to eat it up before it goes off.

    In order to do so I need to make rice, put naan in the oven, and chop some toppings.

    Yeah it makes my pee electric orange yellow cuz I went to heavy on the turmeric, but I’ll cope.

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  55. just nutha says:

    @Michael Reynolds: I can see the interview now:

    Who knew health care immigration was so complicated?

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  56. just nutha says:

    @Franklin:

    We are 3 seconds away from the My Pillow Guy becoming Surgeon General

    Okay. I stand corrected from last night. There IS an appointment that Trump can make lower in that Marianas Trench of appointments that’s lower than Tulsi Gabbard. I bow to the master.

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  57. SC_Birdflyte says:

    @DeD: Oh yes, I forgot that rule.

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  58. charontwo says:

    How right-coded media environment boosts Trump:

    Public Notice

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  59. becca says:

    I was just reading about Polymarket’s CEO’s NYC apartment being raided. Of course, it’s a witch hunt and political payback because Polymarket showed trump winning. Guy looks like a SBF clone. WATB.
    Anyway, got to thinking about the online betting sites that are everywhere now. Apparently quite a lot of people are getting addicted to gambling, especially worrisome in all the young men affected.
    I am not a gambler. Never bought a lottery ticket or placed a bet. I mentioned once I used to clean the home of a big time bookie in Nashville. I met him through a supremely fucked up trust fund baby, who blew his inheritance on gambling, drugging and penicillin.
    Being a bookie for high rollers is very lucrative and Bill the Bookie had a humongous house on the Cumberland river. His taste in women was strippers. His house was party central. Pretty disgusting parties.
    One day I showed up and a couch was missing. One of Bill’s clients, a young lawyer with a wife and child, had shot himself in the head. He lost everything and couldn’t bear to tell his wife. The couch was the scene of his suicide
    Really sad.

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  60. just nutha says:

    @Lucysfootball: [This is example… (crap, I’ve lost count) in the on going series Reasons to Not Elect Cracker to Office]
    I’ma disagree. Democrats have to stop rescuing Republican voters/conservatism from the consequences of their/it’s follies. Trump has the right by a majority win to the administration he wants. Approve everyone. Gaetz, Gabbard, My Pillow guy, Hitler’s cloned nose, Sean Hannity, Carlson, Invest in gold futures guy, whoever. I’m for all of ’em. I’m fed up with preventing worse damage by permitting lesser damage.

    And this concludes ignint cracker’s Michael Moore-esque “giant ‘Fuck You!’ to the nation.” (And episode whatever of Reasons to Not Elect etc.)

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  61. just nutha says:

    One day I showed up and a couch was missing. One of Bill’s clients, a young lawyer with a wife and child, had shot himself in the head. He lost everything and couldn’t bear to tell his wife. The couch was the scene of his suicide

    Coulda been worse. At least he removed the couch before you came to clean.

    But yeah, really sad.

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  62. Kathy says:

    It’s not often we get to run a political experiment.

    If the reason voters went for the felon is the high prices that resulted from high inflation, then when he can’t lower them (tariffs or no tariffs, it’s not possible*), then his party should be walloped in 2026 and he should lose in 2028**.

    But there will be confounders. a lot of them. We’ll see as they come up.

    *There are gimmicks like knocking zeroes off the currency. This is common after really high inflation, and has been done in many countries. Mexico did this in 1993, knocking 3 zeroes off. It does seem more reasonable to buy a dollar for 3.50 pesos rather than 3,500, but the price didn’t change. The effect is purely psychological, but real.

    **I know about the term limits in a constitutional amendment. but if the felon claims it doesn’t apply for non-consecutive terms, chances are 90-95% the Leo court will rule his way. Unless he’s reduced to a drooling orange mass by then, incapable of stitching together more than three words to for a sentence.

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  63. Sleeping Dog says:

    @just nutha:

    Yup!

    As I said on the Meritocracy thread

    Pop some popcorn, crack open your favorite beverage and watch. Among the carnage will be things we care about, but like the alcoholic that needs to hit bottom before he begins the road to recovery, so must the US. We’re entering the mid point of the fall of the American empire. Enjoy.

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  64. Matt Bernius says:

    Posted here because I don’t have the time to blog about it:

    The Onion buys Infowars at bankruptcy auction:
    https://apnews.com/article/onion-buys-infowars-alex-jones-6496f198d141c991087dcd937b3588e9

    This isn’t satire.

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  65. Kathy says:

    @de stijl:

    My MO is to make one dish and consume it over the week.

    @becca:

    I do like gambling. I stopped buying lottery tickets almost 20 years ago. I gamble almost only when I go to Vegas, which I haven’t done since 2015. I set a n expense limit for the trip, and that pays for everything including gambling.

    I usually play for low stakes. as that get me the same thrill as higher stakes. And I try to play games with a low house edge. Advantage games are rare and getting rarer every day.

    I don’t like betting on sports, aside from dumb friendly bets like a can of coke or $2 or something like that. if I’ve any money on a game, I can’t enjoy it. Every move away from the spread is agony. I’d rather enjoy watching the game.

    For me, it’s entertainment. I don’t expect to come out ahead, any more than I expect to win money from watching a movie. Sometimes variance swings in my favor, and that’s nice. Sometimes it goes the other way, and I stop and don’t go chasing losses.

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  66. Kathy says:

    It’s not getting any better.

    I’d advise everyone to get any vaccines and boosters you might think you need now. Jr. might just have them outlawed.

    I ask for an advance minute of silence for all the children who will die in the next four years from vaccine preventable diseases.

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  67. dazedandconfused says:

    I doubt Trump is trolling the US and/or “libs” with clown appointees.

    Having absolute obedience is necessary for having absolute power, and there really aren’t all that many people he can feel a degree of certainly in the area of absolute obedience towards -and have any shot at Senate confirmation.

    “One nation, under Trump”: Scraping the bottom of the barrel from the git-go.

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  68. charontwo says:

    Progress Pond re Gabbard:

    https://progresspond.com/2024/11/14/tulsi-gabbard-is-the-most-dangerous-of-trumps-nominees/

    Donald Trump has made some very provocative cabinet nominations in the last couple of days, including Pete Hegseth for Secretary of Defense and Matt Gaetz for Attorney General. But the most dangerous is former Democratic congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard for Director of National Intelligence. Here’s why.

    Back in January 2023, I wrote a piece called “If It Walks Like A Russian Stooge….” It was about Matt Taibbi, Glenn Greenwald and Tulsi Gabbard, and it took a close look at how they had discussed the civil war in Syria and Russia’s aggression toward Ukraine. Almost a year earlier, Nancy LeTourneau wrote a similar (subscription) piece for this site called “Who’s Spreading Putin’s Talking Points These Days?.” Her article didn’t mention Taibbi, but it also noted Greenwald and Gabbard’s disturbing use of Kremlin propaganda.

    I don’t want to reinvent the wheel here. I recommend looking at those pieces to see why Nancy and I both independently concluded that something extremely fishy was going on. I wrote that they “show all the signs of being either compromised or compensated (or both) by the Russians” and “When you peel away the onion, their consistency over time is not in being on the left or the right, but in criticizing anything America does that Russia doesn’t like and in defending Russia at every turn, often with Russia’s own talking points.” Nancy wrote:

    How did they all latch onto the same talking points? Was it a coincidence? Did they simply follow Greenwald’s lead? Or is there someone behind the scenes feeding them these lines?

    These folks become enraged when accused of promoting Putin’s talking points. But, as much as I’d like to avoid being a conspiracy theorist, it’s hard to ignore that they’re all singing from the same page with this obscure, preposterous theory.

    With respect to Gabbard, this wasn’t a novel observation. When she ran for the Democratic nomination for president in 2019-2020, Hillary Clinton speculated that the Kremlin was “grooming her to be the third-party candidate” and said “they have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far.” David Plouffe straight up called her “a Russian asset.”

    And, as Naveed Jamali of Newsweek observed at the time, they had good reason to make these bold claims:

    When Gabbard announced her candidacy, Russian state media quickly picked up the news, and the coverage by the likes of RT and Sputnik was on their English-language sites, indicating that it was not aimed at Russians. An NBC investigative piece found that there were at least 20 such pieces about Gabbard’s candidacy, such as those on RT that proclaimed “Tulsi Gabbard is ready for America.”

    I noted in my original piece that there were people on the left who had genuine concerns about American support for Ukraine’s inclusion in NATO and the European Union, seeing it as provocative and disrespectful of Russia’s legitimate national security interests. There were people on the left, including me, who were opposed to U.S. involvement in the Syrian civil war, in which Russia was aggressively taking the side of the butcher, Bashar al-Assad. These positions aligned with the Kremlin’s view, but that didn’t mean anyone holding them was a Russian asset. What stood out with Gabbard was her use of Russian talking points, as well as the clear reciprocal support she received in return.

    If you really think about it, it’s remarkable that Hillary Clinton made those comments about Gabbard precisely because they sounded so out of character. Clinton had been in the public eye for over a quarter century by 2019, and she’d never been known to espouse conspiracy theories. But she felt the case was obvious enough to make without fear of sounding crazy.

    Trump has nominated Gabbard to the top job in the American Intelligence Community. It’s a position that gives her access to the identity of every employee, including those serving overseas with either official or non-official cover. She’ll have insight into exactly who in the Russian government is feeding information to America, and it has been clear for a while that America has some well-placed agents working in high positions in the Kremlin. This is one of the reasons the U.S. was so confident Russia would launch a full-bore invasion of Ukraine even as our European allies (and even Ukraine) remained skeptical.

    I don’t think there is any way Gabbard could pass a normal background check to authorize her to see highly classified information, but Trump doesn’t care. Maybe he’s just stupid, or reckless, or it could be that he too is a Russian asset, as has long been speculated. It doesn’t really matter because there’s simply no way that we can risk having Gabbard in a position to compromise all our intelligence officers and their foreign agents.

    Matt Gaetz would be an extremely dangerous Attorney General and Pete Hegseth could do irreparable damage to the U.S. military. I don’t want to downplay the seriousness of their nominations. But Gabbard is far more frightening, and preventing her nomination should be the first priority.

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  69. al Ameda says:

    @Jen:

    Melania will apparently be skipping the move to the White House this time around.

    To be fair, she did ‘renovate’ the iconic Rose Garden to the satisfaction of nobody but the First Family and their congregation. Her work is done.

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  70. Gustopher says:

    @charontwo:

    But the most dangerous is former Democratic congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard for Director of National Intelligence.

    Most dangerous so far

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  71. charontwo says:

    @Gustopher:

    Really? What could be worse than blowing the cover of all of our foreign intelligence assets?

    It’s a position that gives her access to the identity of every employee, including those serving overseas with either official or non-official cover. She’ll have insight into exactly who in the Russian government is feeding information to America, and it has been clear for a while that America has some well-placed agents working in high positions in the Kremlin.

    No more Five Eyes intelligence sharing with allies, either.

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  72. Jen says:

    @charontwo: I could be mistaken, but I believe that is a riff on a Simpson’s meme.

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  73. Michael Reynolds says:

    @Michael Reynolds:

    It will be harder for Trump to cause the kind of chaos he wants domestically.

    I stand corrected. He could bring back measles and rubella birth defects and surrender to Avian flu. This idiot’s going to kill millions.

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  74. Gustopher says:

    The bar I am having a beer on just played The Mountain Goats’ “No Children”, and has moved on to Richard and Linda Thompson’s “I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight.”

    Both fine picks.

    If this is someone’s bitter divorce themed playlist I am going to be so happy.

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  75. Gustopher says:

    @charontwo: Also, RFKJr. Is probably a more dangerous pick than Tulsi Gabbard. Time will tell, of course, but I think the death toll from RFKJr will be larger.

    Gabbard has the possibility of being involved in far more deaths, but I think the odds are lower of that than the likely RFKJr deaths.

    On the one hand, it sucks to be a US intelligence asset. On the other hand it is a great time to be an infectious disease.

    Also, Simpsons meme.

    And he could be holding back with the announcement of Rudy Giuliani for another intelligence spot.

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  76. JKB says:

    When Joe Biden leaves office, he’ll be the last of the old Democrats from when the Democratic party was the party of the working class. It is unlikely any younger Democrat can recreate the illusion and stem the increasingly non-white working class migration to the New Republican party.

    Trump may be the last Boomer president, though the youngest Boomer will only be 64 in 2028. But Gen X and Millennials are likely to start dominating the elections.

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  77. Gavin says:

    @Matt Bernius:
    The follow-up is that Alex did his show yesterday wearing infowars gear and with the infowars chiron in the bottom right…. all the time promoting the Onion. I don’t know why this amused me greatly, probably because it’s stupid to promote the guy who bought you out of bankruptcy in multiple ways that he genuinely doesn’t comprehend.
    Did he lose himself in his own shtick? Yes. Yes, he did.

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