13 responses to “Adolph Hitler Taken by NJ Authorities”

1. 

   Franklin

   January 14, 2009 at 4:50 pm

   I never saw this coming!
2. 

   Doug Mataconis

   January 14, 2009 at 5:22 pm

   The fact that the police in their hometown aren’t aware of any reports of abuse seems to be strong evidence that something fishy is going on.

   NJ DYFS has a long history of being overly zealous in taking parents away from children without sufficient cause that dates back to the 80’s. That there might have been over-reaching here is not surpising.
3. 

   tom p

   January 14, 2009 at 5:41 pm

   I don’t know about NJ, but here in MO it is extremely difficult to take a child away from his/her parents.

   As one who has been thru “the system” it is not at all uncommon for the local sherriff to not have a clue when DFS steps in (I had to take my sons out of an abusive environment after my ex’s drunk husband got his ass kicked by my oldest, than he almost ran him over with his truck)(he got 2 yrs probation)(eventually my ex went to prison for something totally unrelated)

   I only feel for the children. They are confused, and scared, and wanting their mommy and daddy. Even if that is worse than any of us can imagine.
4. 

   Floyd

   January 14, 2009 at 6:32 pm

   Government, by definition is incapable of caring about or for anyone.
   Nationally, a child is, on average, four times more likely to suffer abuse within the system than outside it.
   Big Nanny is far worse than Big Brother!
5. 

   tom p

   January 14, 2009 at 7:15 pm

   Nationally, a child is, on average, four times more likely to suffer abuse within the system than outside it.

   Ok floyd… You got a link to back that up?
6. 

   odograph

   January 14, 2009 at 9:02 pm

   On the surface it seems like Floyd’s is the wrong comparison. We are not talking about taking random kids from the general population, but from a subset at risk. You have to normalize and then compare at-risk kids placed and not placed.
7. 

   Michael

   January 14, 2009 at 9:44 pm

   It’ll be interesting to see what the explanation proffered is. Presumably, it’s not yet a crime to give your kids really stupid names.

   At some point you cross the line between giving your child a stupid name, and giving your child an abusive name. For example, if someone named their child “You worthless little piece of shit”, I’d think that was grounds for removal.

   That said, I don’t think Adolf Hitler quite crosses that line. History aside, it’s a perfectly reasonable German name. However, I’d be willing to bet that there is more wrong with their parenting than choice in names.
8. 

   Floyd

   January 14, 2009 at 9:51 pm

   tom p;
   I make it a practice to give no response to an inquiry such as yours, for a number of reasons.

   1] It is not all that difficult to find the information without my assistance.
   2]The question is generally argumentative in nature, rather than sincere.[I accept your sincerity]
   3] I make no claim as an expert, and feel that the venue should dictate the level of documentation required, this being the lowest level possible.
   4] It is not in my capability or desire to maintain a mental bibliography of every passing book or article I have read.

   I will make an exception here and quote just a couple of sources, neither of which contributed to my earlier statement, but both support it to one degree or the other.I will then leave further research and commentary on the subject to the extent of your diligence and curiosity…

   “Children are 11 times more likely to be abused in State care than they are in their own homes.” *

   Source…*National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect (NCCAN)

   “Children died as a result of abuse in foster care 5.25 times more often than children in the general population. 2.1 percent of all child fatalities took place in foster care. While this may seem like a relatively low number, we must consider the contrast in population between children in the general population versus children in foster care. In 1997, there were nearly 71 million children in the general population (99.6%), but only 302 thousand in state care (.4%) in state care. As state care is supposed to be a ‘safe haven’, the number of fatalities should be less or at least equal to what it is in the general population of children. By this standard, there should have been less than .4% of child fatalities occurring in foster care, however, there was 5.25 times that amount.” (31 states reporting)*

   Source…*CPS Watch Inc.
9. 

   William d’Inger

   January 14, 2009 at 9:57 pm

   And just how old are these children? And just how long did it take the state to act? Why didn’t they do something when the birth certificates were issued? Methinks, some state official(s) should be sued for malfeasance. My contention is that if the state issued birth certificates in those names, they don’t have a leg to stand on now.
10. 

    Franklin

    January 14, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    I agree with odograph … those studies didn’t do the proper comparison. I’m guessing, for example, that kids with Down’s Syndrome get abused more often, and I’d also guess that there are a higher proportion of kids in foster care with Down’s Syndrome than the normal population. I have zero evidence to back that up.
11. 

    Triumph

    January 15, 2009 at 12:43 am

    Government, by definition is incapable of caring about or for anyone.

    Dude, haven’t you read Secretary of State Hillzilla’s book? It takes a liberal village to raise a child!
12. 

    Watchman

    January 19, 2009 at 8:36 am

    No doubt in my mind that the parents got into some kind of verbal skirmish with a DYFS agent, likely one of its numerous unqualified, affirmative-action promoted black supervisors. That degenerate supervisor then retaliated by getting someone with a grudge to annonomously phone in a fabricated suspicion of abuse against the family to give DYFS reason to go there and remove the children. This is how they work. I know because been thru it. They tried to take all my 4 children just because my oldest was being rebellious and my wife hurt the feelings of one of those affirmative action -benifited black supervisors. That’s how they work.