Milley Called Trump, “Fascist to the Core”
Another tidbit from Woodward's new book.
Via The Independent: Trump’s top general calls ex-president ‘fascist to the core’ and ‘most dangerous person to this country,’ new book says.
the Army veteran expressed even more strident concerns to Woodward himself at a March 2023 meeting at the Willard Hotel in Washington, DC.
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“He is the most dangerous person ever. I had suspicions when I talked to you about his mental decline and so forth, but now I realize he’s a total fascist. He is now the most dangerous person to this country,” he said.
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“A fascist to the core,” Milley repeated.
To refresh memories: Milley was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and was, therefore, the highest ranking member of the US military. He is no random observer.
If Milley feels that way about Trump, and I have no reason to doubt the veracity of the book, I really wish he, and others, would go on the record on video to say these things. People read stuff like this in a book and dismiss it (or never see it). If Milley thinks, and I think he is correct, that Trump is a fascist and a danger, now’s the time to put up or shut up.
I expect that his military reticence makes him unwilling to actively campaign. But he has retired and he has an opportunity to serve his country in a different capacity.
That Milley has concerns about Trump is obvious beyond what Woodward has written.
The general’s private comments to Woodward, which have not been previously reported, were echoed in cutting remarks Milley made publicly at his September 2023 retirement ceremony, when, without mentioning Trump’s name, he appeared to take a swipe at the ex-president.
In the impassioned speech, he defiantly said the US military is “unique” among the world’s fighting forces because it does not profess fealty to any one person.
““We don’t take an oath to a country, we don’t take an oath to a tribe, we don’t take an oath to a religion. We don’t take an oath to a king, or a queen, or a tyrant or a dictator,” he said.
Apparently referencing Trump, he immediately added: “And we don’t take an oath to a wannabe dictator!”
““We take an oath to the Constitution and we take an oath to the idea that is America — and we’re willing to die to protect it,” he said.
Now is not the time for subtlety and keeping everyone guessing as to what he almost certainly meant. Time to be as forthright as possible.
Shouldn’t it be fascist to the core? The post title seems off.
Well, the General has identified the fault line in the military. Vets or active duty military who support Cheeto Benito do so in violation of their oath to defend the Constitution, like Michael Flynn.
We can only hope there are more Milleys than Flynns. Or to put it another way, more patriots than traitors.
@charontwo: You are correct. Autocorrect did that to me twice and I didn’t notice it in the title.
Here let me translate for you: Leftists don’t accept the fact that a Republican can be the President. Sure they can physically occupy the office, but they’re not really in control of the Executive Branch. Therefore, their policies don’t have to be carried out. If Republicans insist that yes they can be the President then they are a “fascist.” In fact, any opposition to the Left is “fascist.”
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Much much more at the link.
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More, too long to quote.
@joe:
That didn’t make any sense. Also was that the case with previous Republican presidencies?
Trump Republican critics (as well as his critics on the left) continually point out how history words and actions point to fascism. If you don’t agree, perhaps you could start by providing an affirmative defense of those words and actions.
Perhaps you could start by defending Trump’s racist lies about Haitians in Springfield or his lies about FEMA in Appalachia. I am sure you can explain how those really are not lies designed to consolidate power by turning his followers against Black immigrants and current government workers.
@joe:
I’m a registered Democrat who has voted for Republicans too since I first registered to vote in 1979. Ronald Reagan, George HW Bush, Connie Mack III, to name a few.
Trump won’t be getting my vote.
@joe:
Also, FWIW is your view any different than the belief of Trumpists like yourself who think all Democrats are communists and won’t admit that a Democrat legitimately won the 2020 election.
Trump and Vance continue to argue that Biden is an illegitimate President and Harris is an illegitimate candidate. So for once your post reads as a bunch of salty both-sides tears.
@charontwo:
The link seems to be describing a very Godly sort of fascism. Towards the end of the long piece came to this:
I had some interactions with John Birch members back in the day, I noticed there was a lot of religiousity attached to JBS functions.
@joe: “Here let me translate for you: Leftists don’t accept the fact that a Republican can be the President.”
Soooooo, sooo wrong. Up is down, North is South, East is West, Slavery is Freedom and War is Peace.
@Matt Bernius:
“Also, FWIW is your view any different than the belief of Trumpists like yourself who think all Democrats are communists and won’t admit that a Democrat legitimately won the 2020 election.”
Or the birther theory that Obama was ineligible to be President, due to his Kenyan father, which Trump was the most prominent exponent of. Note also that the same argument is sometimes made about Harris due to her parentage.
@joe: what would Trump need to do or say to make you think “huh, I was wrong, actually he is a fascist”?
I was not aware that Trump had a core. I assume Milley is speaking metaphorically.
@Fog: It’s a major problem. Vets don’t appreciate how much they’ve been targeted by foreign social media propaganda campaigns. Many never learned about NATO, the Fed, The Cold War… really much of anything about our country before signing up for Facebook. Young people aren’t even aware of how lousy Trump’s real world reputation was before the internet. Older republicans are clearly too inebriated, hateful, or corrupt to remember this guy was making macaroni art with Gary Busey, Meatloaf and other D list celebrities for a living on TV after driving all his real world businesses to into the ground.
I’d hire a pregnant teenage migrant to do just about anything before considering him. He doesn’t even try to do anything but make things worse for everyone other than himself.
@charontwo: I can only hope white men have enjoyed advertising their deep seated inferiority complex to the entire world the last 8 years. It’s been a ton of fun, that’s for sure. I guess it shouldn’t be surprising that when we send our people to government we certainly are not sending our best.
So I doubt white “men” are going to cuck for Putin and this Orange Beta Pedo anymore but the damage is already done for our country whether republicans steal the election or not.
You don’t have a country once half the body politic is actively trying to collapse the American government for the benefit of a foreign enemy. It actually doesn’t matter whether voters are aware of this treasonous outcome or not.
Either way white men simply can not accomplish much of anything without the help of minorities, women, and children…. short of isolated bursts of gun violence.
so ask yourself this… are you ever going to take shit from a loud-mouthed, know-nothing, white drunk who can’t barely wipe his own ass ever again?
When you realize there’s no going back you realize its already over for the whites no matter what happens in politics. You can’t undo the damage that’s already been done.
My guess is we’ll all starve the day we have to pick our own vegetables. Textbook mental pathology.
LOL. A general worried about his job record and rep.
Trump was is office 4 years. Fascist results? But a propagandist media, an FBI, a Justice Dept and a CiA that crush people goes uncommented on
You are such vacuous people.
@Jack:
He did incite a riot that stormed the Capitol. And try to overturn an election. And is now promising to pardon those convicted for storming the capitol.
It might not be from the Vichy region of France, or whatever, but it’s close enough for common parlance.
@joe:
I’ll take TROLLING OTB LIBS for $800, Alex.
@Jack: The problem, Jack is that you don’t care about focusing your attention to the Fascist results of the Trump presidency. If you cared about them at all you would recite them at nauseam to us. You just don’t care about:
Bedlam at airports and a 7 country muslim flight ban.
Separating children from their families at the border
Delivering comprehensive border reform to his constituency
Selling Goya Beans out of the Oval Office like a whore would
Sucking Putins dick on TV and making women look more courageous than men.
Denigrating our service members.
Raping your mother in a Nordstroms changing room.
Drawing outside of the lines of a hurricane map like a kindergartener.
Ignoring a global pandemic, printing 2 trillion dollars so white boys can play video games in air condition at home while spiking inflation to 8% and giving white nail salon owners in Houston TX million dollar loans they don’t have to pay back.
Killing a million people
Killing an Iranian general
Exporting inflation to S. America causing a migration crisis.
Started a Trade war with China and adopted white socialism for soybean farmers in iowa
Exacerbating the Fetanyl crisis
Lying about his gay little tiny dick
Jack just doesn’t care about this stuff is all. If he did, he’d be reminding us of these things instead of using his poor memory as a pretense that these things didn’t happen because he gave his attention span away to the internet over the course of these failed years.
Jack had failed us, gentlemen. He just doesn’t know it because he’s only an internet troll.
@Jack: Yeah, the CIA has a pretty ugly history. Comparable to Trump’s when you really think about it.
The justice department though?
They don’t make the kind of mistakes Trump has floated through his whole life…. and there is the rub.
This country had no appetite to prosecute white collar crime. You can’t wait for one of these white cuck’s to gain the presidency before trying to hold them to account. By then, the immorality of their ill-gotten gains are so metastasized that they’re mental state has devolved into the childish pathology of truly believing that blow drying your hair, putting on a suit and tie, and borrowing money at 0% is somehow much more virtuous than working.
Does Jack even remember that real estate lenders and developers were never prosecuted for nearly destroying the full faith and credit of the United States dollar in 2007?
What the fuck do you think ignoring a pandemic and printing two trillion dollars instead is gonna do?
Republicans suck the teats of government and then shit in her face on the way out the door. Let the libtards clean it all up, right?
Haha. Jack probably doesn’t remember Rush Limbaugh had emergency socialized heart surgery in Cuba either. I think he got the presidential medal of freedom for letting the Cubans save his life.
Oh wait…I think he got it for never contributing to society and just talking shit about Cubans on the radio his whole life.
Jack’s like Bill Murray in ground hogs day. He gets drunk and talks shit every night just to wake up the next day not knowing anything ever happened.
Jack’s like the child who walks into the movie when it’s half way over…. Lol
Haha. Jack probably doesn’t remember Rush Limbaugh had emergency socialized heart surgery in Cuba either. I think he got the presidential medal of freedom for letting the Cubans save his life.
Oh wait…I think he got it for never contributing to society and just talking shit about Cubans on the radio his whole life.
Jack’s like Bill Murray in ground hogs day. He gets drunk and talks shit every night just to wake up the next day not knowing anything ever happened.
Jack’s like the child who walks into the movie when it’s half way over….
Republicans are too drunk and on drugs to make decisions for themselves let alone anyone else. They don’t even remember how they’re the ones who sold the country to China in the first place, put two wars on the credit card, ballooned the housing market with mortgage fraud, and destroyed our tax base.
They literally don’t remember that this is what they have chosen to do with power.
They don’t understand that all of these choices are why the country sucks now.
They can’t look in the mirror anymore because we all have suffered the consequences of their failures in leadership.
Don’t lead. Don’t follow. For the love of God, get the fuck out of the way…
@Aaron: Every Republican I’ve ever known has an alcohol or drug problem. Few have actually ever copped to it. They vote like that…
It doesn’t matter. There isn’t a universe where Milley wouldn’t be able to raise an army to depose MAGA if Trump pulls his little boy tricks again. I’m pretty sure 70% of the country will be able to put down a handful of demented septuagenarians who haven’t shot straight in decades.
The only reason the Jan 6 riot got out of hand was because MAGA is such a pathetic joke no body actually expected the stupid drunks to treat our nation’s capital like a Seattle Starbucks bathroom.
But we should have. No more benefit of the doubt for “white Christians” anymore. They’ve proven themselves violent and untrustworthy over and over again.
Just think about how easy it will be to destabilize a people who have been living on conspiracy theories and their own fart smells for the last decade. Joint Chiefs & The Military will not let this country down again. Trump isn’t in office to stop them either.
God Bless Milley, Mattis, McMaster, McCain from the bottom of my broken little republican heart.
@Pete Milley: He’ll turn the dollar into used toilet paper if the military actually let him steal the country away. Probably going to happen anyway considering all of the borrowing and spending the Republicans have done. Ruined the country and blamed it all on the women and children. Unmanly.
@Pete Milley: Haha. Great post. Jack probably knows this is the short version of the list.
@charontwo: Title looks good now, but URL is still off