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Ford rehires human engineers after AI fails to match quality checks (BBC)Ford says it has hired back some human engineers after AI failed to match their skills and experience.
…executives said the firm has rehired more than 300 “veteran” quality inspectors in recent years to make up for the pitfalls of automated systems.
“Artificial intelligence is a fantastic tool, but it’s only as good as the information you use to train it,” Charles Poon, vice president of vehicle hardware engineering, told reporters.
…The US automaker is among many to have seized on the buzz around AI, particularly amid Wall Street fervour about the tech’s potential to increase margins.
“AI will leave a lot of white collar people behind,” Ford boss Jim Farley said in an interview with author Walter Isaacson last June.
In an October earnings call, chief operating officer Kumar Galhotra said the firm was “deploying AI across the entire industrial system”.
This included rolling out 900 AI-powered cameras in its plants “to detect quality issues at the source and help us mitigate supply disruptions”, Galhotra told investors.
But Poon told reporters on Wednesday the firm’s AI-driven checks had failed to live up to expectations.
“Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that would produce a high-quality product,” he said.
Poon reportedly pointed to automated tools lacking the training and expertise of veteran technicians – many of whom he said had left the company before their knowledge could be used to improve its tech.
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AI ‘exuberance’ risks ending in lengthy investment bust, BIS warns (Financial Times)Big Tech’s AI spending spree risks ending in a prolonged “investment bust” that could rattle financial markets and damage the global economy, the Bank for International Settlements has warned.
The Basel-based organisation, which advises the world’s central banks, said the prospect of worse than expected returns in the tech sector could prompt investors to rapidly curb financing for AI companies, at a time when the five biggest “hyperscalers” are expected to invest more than $1tn from 2025 to the end of 2026.
“Disappointment in returns could trigger a sudden pullback in financing and turn the capex [capital expenditure] boom into a protracted investment bust, with potential knock-on effects on financial conditions,” the BIS said in its annual economic report on Sunday, as it laid out the risks of the “current AI exuberance”.
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I suspect that like many new technologies (nanotechnology, genetic engineering), generative AI is being hailed as solving all problems and it will take a couple of decades before we really have a grasp on the problems it can actually help with. A few are already apparent, like auto-translation, but it’s hard to think of other problems where “generally good enough” is sufficient.
The one thing that has thrown me for a loop in this one, is how many people continue to rely on chatbots even when they know they are unreliable. I don’t know how that affects the adoption curve
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I’ve just dabbled in chatbots (primarily Copilot). After a medical procedure I got the report. It was dense in medical terminology. I loaded the .pdf and asked for a “plain language side by side” report of the results. I found it pretty useful.
This was prior to my followup appointment on the procedure. I asked the doc whether they considered providing this explanation up front. Reasonably explained that they thought about that but are concerned about liability issues. As usual.
But it was interesting experiment for me.
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After a 3-day break from competitive matches, today’s finale features two star players that first met 19 years ago — when Argentina’s Messi was 20 and Spain’s Yamal was 6 months old.
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Have any of you read The Odyssey? A movie has been made of that story, and I have seen a fair number of internet comments attacking the authenticity of the film. I am surprised that the story has so many advocates. I’m pretty literate; I read a lot of novels including a lot of classical ones, but I have only read Odyssey once, and that was in tenth grade about 65 years ago. It struck me as a set of typical primitive, i.e. non technological, peoples’ fables sewn together using the Odysseus character like Coyote in Native American tales or other folktales. I have not reread the original. I have read things that reference the story; I have read the James Joyce riff twice. I’m surprised that the world is full of defenders of the original text who apparently eschewed translations. Are there really a lot of those readers out there? Or is this like the Bible where the most ardent people obviously have not read the book?
BTW, The Iliad </em is real good. The horrors of war and the futility of trying to maintain honor and also obey the chief are timeless.-
I read both the Illiad and the Odyssey about 40 years ago. I won’t go see the movie in the cinema, but might watch it online at some point.
Most of what I’ve seen of people saying it’s not “true to the original” are racists who are upset that Helen of Troy and Aphrodite are played by women of color (as if everyone in ancient Greece had snow-white skin and blonde hair).
I’ve seen a few instances where people are upset that Nolan is using (seemingly) modern terms or phrases (“daddy” and “Let’s go!” are the ones that I’ve seen pop up). That’s just Nolan playing to a modern audience.
I read a very good breakdown of these complaints somewhere (I can’t remember where) that brought up the point that The Odyssey has become a sort of Bible for the “manosphere”–and, of course, the “manly men” are cherry-picking and misinterpreting the original story (which, by the way, their reading a translated and interpreted version of).
And, you’re right. The Odyssey was written hundreds of years after the supposed events, and suffers from the effects of translation, repetition, politics, and time like so many oral “histories” do. Unless they’ve got a masters in Greek history and Greek literature, anyone who complains that the movie “isn’t like the original” is just talking out their ass.
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I bet they don’t even mention the minivan.
I thought the Odyssey was mostly about hubris. Between Odysseus and his crew, there’s plenty to go around.
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The Odyssey is awesome, and I really enjoy the differences in translations — because translating isn’t a word for word substitution, it’s basically an entirely new work that tries to keep the important elements of the original, but each translator will find different parts to be the most important.
The recent Emily Wilson translation is really nice.
Anyway, it’s a story about a guy couch-surfing his way home, telling tall tales to his hosts, and then finally getting home and murdering a bunch of squatters. What’s not to love?
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I have expressed the opinion that the country is so divided because Republicans have worked hard to make us so. Axios reports,
Republicans admit the GOP’s midterm forecast is bleak. But they’re clinging to two hopes: voters’ fear and loathing of Democrats.”It’s going to be a hate election,” a Republican tied to President Trump’s political operation told Axios.
“Voters have to hate the Dems more than they hate us. And we have material to work with.”
Having “material to work with” is irrelevant. They’ll work with whatever they have and invent more, like CRT in grade school, forced sex change surgeries, Haitians eating cats, and Obama being born in Kenya.
One should also note their tax cut was top end loaded with token stuff for anyone else.
Why it matters: There’s broad GOP frustration that Trump has made challenging midterm elections worse by not focusing heavily on pocketbook issues — especially the tax cuts Republicans won — while launching the Iran war, which raised gas prices and fueled inflation.
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After using it for two weeks (because my RSS app died a while ago), I would like to say that I really don’t like nested comments.
I only check OTB a few times a day. In the old system, I could just reload, find the last comment I’d read, and read on from there.
Now? I have to go up to the top, reload to see if there are any new comments, and then scroll through everything from the top down to hopefully recognize any new sub-sub-sub-comments.
Honestly? After the first round of comments, I just don’t bother.
Nested comments–for me–make the site far less readable.
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