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Yes, Those Dishes Were Dirty

Doug Mataconis
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Since posted about this story yesterday, I suppose an update is in order:

Amid questions and criticisms related to Paul Ryan’s visit this weekend to an Ohio soup kitchen, the charity’s president said the Republican vice presidential candidate did, in fact, scrub dirty dishes though his visit wasn’t officially sanctioned.

The question of whether the Wisconsin congressman cleaned dishes that were actually dirty – as opposed to re-washing already clean dishes so as to get a good photo opportunity — Mahoning County St. Vincent De Paul Society President Brian Antal clarified that Ryan did clean soiled dishes. This differs from what Antal had told The Washington Post Monday.

Speaking Tuesday morning with NBC News, Antal said he was not on-site when Ryan was at the soup kitchen and attributes his earlier comments that the dishes were clean when Ryan washed them to hearing the details second-hand from a volunteer.

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In response to questions about Antal’s comments to the Washington Post that Ryan “did nothing” while at the soup kitchen, Antal said his words were mischaracterized. He told NBC News in that Ryan did very little work only compared to the larger context of Saturday morning, when the kitchen fed 180 homeless people breakfast. Antal conceded that Ryan did wash several dirty dishes.

I suppose this was the dumbest meme of the campaign. This week.

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17 responses to “Yes, Those Dishes Were Dirty”

  1. john personna Avatar
    john personna

    I wish there was a photo with some dirty dishes! This does improve the situation for Ryan, but back and forth isn’t real convincing to me, the opposition.

  2. wr Avatar
    wr

    So a volunteer who was there told Antal that Ryan washed clean dishes, and then somehow, magically Antal learns that the dishes were actually dirty, despite the fact that he still hadn’t been there and there is no source cited for the new information.

    It’s pretty obvious that this change of course comes not because Antal has been enlightened but because of huge political pressure, most likely from the Ryan campaign, or from Republican donors to apolitical soup kitchen.

    But of course Doug presents the revised, evidence-free statement as unquestionable truth. Wonder what he’d be saying if it were Biden in the picture.

  3. Scott O Avatar
    Scott O

    Watch this video. About 5 seconds in there’s a guy in a black shirt in the background. He appears to be taking some pans that are stored on a shelf under the table and placing them in the sink.

  4. john personna Avatar
    john personna

    @Scott O:

    A very good link. Sorry idiot down-voter. That shows the kitchen in late-stage cleanup, with folks just wiping things down. That is totally washing clean dishes.

  5. Franklin Avatar
    Franklin

    Whee-oo, glad that controversy is over. Or is it?

  6. SKI Avatar
    SKI

    @Scott O: Not sure about that. I looks to me that they were the steam-tray inserts that hold the water, but not the food. They therefore appear clean but do need to be washed.

    Doesn’t change the basic point that dropping into a non-profit uninvited/unannounced and effectively forcing them into a partisan context isn’t appropriate (or a sign of a good campaign team).

  7. Paul L. Avatar
    Paul L.

    I suppose this was the dumbest meme of the campaign. This week.

    When Doug gets a story wrong. It gets labelled dumb.
    See Palin suing Gawker.

    A Democrat who claimed he was independent and who later admitted he wasn’t there and that, yes, Ryan had washed dirty dishes.

    Amusing to see the progressive here trying to protect the narrative just like they did with the Iraq plastic turkey and Churchill bust stories

  8. mantis Avatar
    mantis

    Who cares?

  9. John Peabody Avatar
    John Peabody

    Where is the long-form dirty certificate?

  10. rodney dill Avatar
    rodney dill

    …at least it was fun for a day to see the liberals just about peeing in their pants to make something out of nothing.

  11. An Interested Party Avatar
    An Interested Party

    …at least it was fun for a day to see the liberals just about peeing in their pants to make something out of nothing.

    Indeed, much like conservatives who will piss their pants for who knows how many days over “act of terror”…

  12. Jenos Idanian #13 Avatar
    Jenos Idanian #13

    @An Interested Party: At least we got that dangerous international criminal off the streets for making a video that insulted Islam. I mean, it’s OK to piss off the Christians, and it’s almost mandatory to crap on the Jews, but insult the Muslims? Those guys are crazy. They start slaughtering people at the drop of a turban. Forget rights and principles. We need to remember that even though we ain’t Muslims and we don’t live in a Muslim state, we damned well better obey Islamic law and show all respect to Islam.

  13. Scott O Avatar
    Scott O

    @rodney dill: I respect your right to believe BS.

  14. mantis Avatar
    mantis

    @Jay Tea’s puppet Jenos Idanian #13:

    At least we got that dangerous international criminal off the streets for making a video that insulted Islam allegedly violating the terms of his probation.

    FTFY.

    Specifically:

    Nakoula faces allegations that he lied to his probation officers about using aliases and telling them that his role in the film’s production was limited to writing the script. He is also accused of using aliases on court documents and possessing a driver’s license under a false name.

    I’m sure you were a big advocate of letting convicted felons ignore their probation restrictions before this incident, right? After all, it’s just using false names and lying to federal officers. What’s the big deal? It’s not like he’s on probation for a fraud conviction or anything. Oh, wait…

  15. Rafer Janders Avatar
    Rafer Janders

    @Paul L.:

    Amusing to see the progressive here trying to protect the narrative just like they did with the Iraq plastic turkey and Churchill bust stories

    It’s like conservatives have their own secret language, isn’t it? They have these shibboleths that they trade back and forth among themselves — “Plastic turkey! Churchill bust! Fast and Furious! Benghazi! Soros!” — and, in the constant repetition, convince themselves that these phrases have some magical meaning. What they totally lose sight of, however, is that for the rest of us, unsteeped as we are in the secret mysteries, most of what they’re saying is just incomprehensible argle-bargle.

  16. Davebo Avatar
    Davebo

    No Doug, you are wrong.

    Ryan was committing an “act of cleaning dirty dishes”. Not actually “cleaning dirty dishes”.

    There’s just something about Doug’s pretzel logic that makes getting up in the morning worth while.

    Well, that and good coffee.

  17. Paul L. Avatar
    Paul L.

    @Rafer Janders:
    Funny how progressives memory hole their outrage over Bush “serving a plastic turkey” to troops in Iraq when it got debunked.
    Just like when you mention their support for Mike Nifong in the Duke Lacrosse Rape hoax.

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