But, Didn’t the US System Work Recently?

Answering a question about our messy institutional mechanisms.

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In my post, The Messy Nature of America’s Democratic Structures, steve222 asked a very reasonable question that I thought deserved a post as an answer.

I have agreed with you before that our system is seriously flawed, but then it has been flawed for a long time. Why has it deteriorated so much over the last 10-30 years? I dont think we had big changes in our system but rather the electorate. Ask yourself this question. If we had a better system now, would the governance be a lot better? Color me doubtful. The fact that we even have people like Paxton running suggests to me that voters are broken.

Now ask it the other way. What if the voters weren’t broken? In that case, if voters actually made attempts to be informed, if they weren’t so tribal, if they were unwilling to elect obviously corrupt or inept candidates, I think our system would matter a lot less.

This is a reasonable and common response to a lot of us who are arguing for reform. I get the notion that the problem is just bad voters and bad candidates, and if we could just get back to some semblance of normal, things would revert to some sort of status quo ante.

Let me state from the top that I don’t think that the voters are necessarily any worse now, in the aggregate, than they have ever been. I sit typing this in a state that elected George Wallace a number of times. Strom Thurmond was in the Senate forever. The nation put Richard Nixon into the White House in a landslide. Those are just prominent examples off the top of my head. I have little doubt that it would not be hard to find candidates in the past just as awful as Ken Paxton. It seems worth noting that part of the reason that we amended the Constitution to elect Senators was rampant corruption.

I hate to just point to Wikipedia, but: List of American federal politicians convicted of crimes.

Further, back when the system was “working,” we had things like Vietnam, Watergate, and stagflation (to name three big successes from my childhood). Throw in some other big-ticket awesomeness from when things worked would include Iran-Contra, the Iraq War, the “management” of Katrina, and the global financial crisis/Great Recession.

(If one wants to go big picture, there was slavery, the slaughter of indigenous people during western expansion, the Civil War, and Jim Crow.)

I note all of that because it is always easy to remember the past as better than it was because, well, it’s the past and we don’t have to deal with it any longer.

I mean, we did win WWII and we passed the New Deal, the Great Society, the Civil RIghts Act, and the Voting Rights Act! We won the Cold War and passed the ACA. So, not all blemishes.

Still, when we look back to how well things have worked, there is a lot needed for such an assessment.

I am a big fan of the quip that democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried. Finding a way to engage in collective governance is hard.

But still, was there less dysfunction in the past in Washington? I think that it is fair to say yes, there was.

So what happened?

First and foremost, we need to level-set this discussion. The United States of America did not become a full liberal democracy until 1965 with the Voting Rights Act. So, when we assess how well things worked in the past, we need to keep that in mind. That was a mere 61 years ago.

A key element, as James alluded to in his response to the question, that has happened in the period of time between 1965 and 2026 (and especially in the last 30 years) that helps explain why things have further degenerated is the resorting of the parties. For various reasons, many of which were linked to the US Civil War, the South was solidly Democratic. This alone meant that the Democratic Party in Congress had a built-in conservative wing. Further, with the advent of the New Deal’s popularity, this created a situation in which Democrats had a nearly unbroken chain of majorities in the House, often quite large, and frequent control of the Senate. (Just scroll back through these numbers to get a sense of how things have changed.)

This alone made governing one hell of a lot easier than it has been.

The one-party South started a slow erosion in the 1960s, which picked up some steam in the 1980s, and the dam broke at the Congressional level in 1994. It took another ten to twenty years for that to filter down to state governments.

I have written several posts about this. Here are two that provide the basic data and history:

In basic terms: the party system has thoroughly reorganized itself into the exact configuration guaranteed to expose and amplify every single pathology in our institutional structures.

Let’s throw in a few other factors.

  • In 1972, we shifted to using primaries as the main mechanism to nominate presidential candidates. This was yet another weakening of American political parties and the further personalization of presidential politics, an already inherently personalistic mechanism.
  • The polarized and sorted nature of the parties has increased the odds of government shutdowns as political tools.
  • The polarized and sorted nature of the parties has increased the value of the filibuster as a political tool.
  • The media environment has become fragmented and partisan.
  • There is very little control over campaign spending.
  • The end of the Cold War took away a central political goal around which the overwhelming majority of Americans had basic agreement.

I feel like I am missing something obvious, but this is a pretty good overview for sitting on the porch with my coffee this morning.

If I had to pick the three most important: the geographical sorting of the parties, the change in the media environment, and the end of the Cold War.

There is a lot more that could be said about presidentialism’s effects (I said some of it in my recent Liberal Currents essay).

The structural ingredients needed to get us where we are have been in place for a long time. Keep in mind we have a system that was designed without understanding political parties and now has a rigid, polarized two-party system that makes politics into a constant zero-sum game, with an electoral system that shuts most of us out from seriously competitive elections. We also have a system (presidentialism) that holds within it a major flaw that can be exploited by an authoritarian-oriented president. Since the president controls all the mechanisms of law enforcement, where is the institutional capacity to rein him in?

So, to my overall list, I would simply note two key design flaws:

  • A system designed without regard to the existence of political parties.
  • Presidentialism (i.e., separation of powers).*

These are simple time bombs in the Constitution that have finally blown up in our faces (not that political science hasn’t been concerned about all of this for some time).

In regard to better voters, I would note that we have managed to keep an utter demagogue out of office for most of our existence, but we have been playing institutional chicken for quite some time. But if you take the initial design, plus the way things have evolved since 1965, getting to where we are is not that big of a surprise, especially when you throw into the electoral mix a massive global pandemic and the economic effects that roiled our politics heading into the 2024 election. Regardless of any other factors, that election was going to be an anti-incumbent one. The bad news for the world was that the Republicans bowed to the incentives the system produced (i.e., Trump’s influence with the base and his ability to crowd out challengers given his status as a former president), and they retained Trump as their nominee.**

Let me conclude with a return to a component of steve222’s question:

Ask yourself this question. If we had a better system now, would the governance be a lot better?

I ask myself this all the time, and while I must acknowledge that counterfactuals are impossible to prove, I still think that the answer is “yes.”

Some simple examples:

  • A system with stronger parties, in terms of control of nominations, would not have produced Trump in 2016.
  • A system that allowed for the popular vote winner to become president would not have produced Trump in 2016.***
  • If we had a system that provided voters with more than two choices, it would be easier to contain extremes. MAGA should not be able to control one of the two major parties, and yet it does.
  • A system that produced truly competitive elections, with proportional outcomes in the House, would produce a more engaged electorate and increase the odds of more serious legislating.
  • A system that better represented state populations in the Senate would produce more democratic outcomes.

I could go on and on and on (and on and on).

Some of this (like the GOP elite consensus in 2016) is just a matter of looking at the past and thinking about how different rules would have structured outcomes differently.

A lot of this is demonstrable via comparative study of other institutional structures globally.

Rules matter. Any sports fan knows this. It matters that it takes but one foot inbounds for a completed pass in college football, but it requires two in the NFL. The fact that PI is a spot foul in the NFL is a huge deviation from the college rule, etc.


*Brazil has been doing a good job of showing the flaws of presidentialism of late, and France (a semi-presidential system) may well be about to have an election that will likewise demonstrate the problems of reducing national angst down to a choice between extremes.

**A lot more could be said about that, of course.

***And without Trump in 2016, you never get him in 2024. Further, even if the nomination system had produced him in 2016 and the popular vote was the deciding factor, the GOP would have turned away from MAGA as a bunch of losers instead of embracing it. Rules. Matter.

16 responses to “But, Didn’t the US System Work Recently?”

  1. I came of age during Le Trente Glorieuses. It certainly feels to me like politics and the economy have deteriorated since. But looking back, yes, our current ills are not unique.

    You note unlimited campaign contributions, but I’d probably put a lot more stress on money as a current problem. The Koch’s et al explicitly set out in the early 80s to remove barriers to money, and to use money outside the campaign system. The Kochs also astroturfed the Tea Party into prominence, which was the beginning of our current situation with faux populism as a front for plutocrats. As you live in AL, I doubt you’d see racism based faux populism as a mechanism to keep “working class” whites in line as a new development.

    For me it comes down to what’s actionable. I know of no realistic way to make voters better. I could easily come up with a list of possible improvements to structures and rules.

    1. @gVOR10 Money is a real problem, but I think there is a massive overdetermination problem when it comes to explaining elections. I am not convinced, for example, that the electoral outcomes we will see in November would be especially different if there had been far less spending.

      I do agree that the growing oligrachy/new Gilded Age we are in is a major problem (see, e.g., the confluence of a billionaire and Twitter).

      For me it comes down to what’s actionable. I know of no realistic way to make voters better. I could easily come up with a list of possible improvements to structures and rules

      Exactly.

      1. Any thoughts from anyone about organizations that would be worth supporting financially or through volunteer time that are working to make these types of changes?

        1. Some possibilities.

          -No Kings/locally affiliated groups
          -Protect Democracy
          -Fairvote
          -The Brennan Center

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        2. Thanks @Steven! I had my eye on Fairvote but they don’t seem very active locally. I’ll check out Protect Democracy. Or maybe Fairvote could support me trying to get something going locally

  2. Sometime after the Oklahoma City bombing, Newsweek had an editorial cartoon that showed a man pointing at a figure meant to represent the USSR and shouting at it “Evil empire! Evil empire!”, while an Uncle Sam figure looks on approvingly.

    The second panel shows the USSR figure die or vanish.

    In the third panel, the man turns to point at the Uncle Sam figure and begins yelling, “Evil empire! Evil empire!”

    It was meant to illustrate the “militia movement” McVeigh and others were supposed to be associated with. It might as well have illustrated how the late Republican party switched from demonizing the Soviet Union to demonizing Democrats.

    That’s a big and IMO very relevant change. It’s one thing to regard the other big party as a rival, and another to regard it as an enemy. And not just of your party, but of your country.

    1. I think 9/11 postponed the post-Cold War realignment in politics by swapping the USSR for Islamic terrorism.

      In the years immediately following the collapse of the Soviet Union, Pat Buchanan’s three presidential runs anticipated MAGA in a lot of ways, with its neo-isolationism, opposition to free trade, and hysteria over mass migration. Much of this was put on the backburner during the Bush years but made a comeback after the failures of the War on Terror and the election of a black Democratic president.

  3. Just Another Ex-Republican Avatar
    Just Another Ex-Republican

    I would add rapid technological change as a factor as well. At every step going from newspapers to radio to TV to Internet to social media the trend was faster distribution of sensationalist, divisive bleep. The existence of yellow journalism long-predates the current age (“You furnish the pictures and I’ll furnish the war”) but the speed and reach it now works at has completely overwhelmed our ability to handle. There have been studies done on how people can become addicted to outrage (which I cynically call the Fox News business plan) and it’s overwhelmed our social compact (for lack of a better phrase).

    I’m not sure if the fragmentation and siloing of the media is the cause or the effect of the technology change (some of both in a feedback loop probably) but I think it’s definitely a factor in how things are more partisan and more difficult to govern than before. I think it was George Bush (Sr?) who once noted that you used to be able to go tell the voters whatever you wanted then go back to Washington and work with the other side to actually keep things running. Now compromise and collaboration are dirty words because any hint of backing down is blasted back to your voters within minutes through multiple channels and anger predominates.

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    1. Yes, that’s a point I often bring up. And while I agree with Prof. Taylor that the system can be improved to help things, another side effect of this radicalization of voters via social media, Fox, etc. is that politicians are increasingly willing (and allowed without any punishment) to attack the system itself. Ultimately, it could lead to breaking the rules of the system themselves in various ways. Many people fear we’ll get to that dangerous point if we continue, especially with the current band of corrupt, unethical people in power. Does anyone think Trump cares about the sanctity of the system or wouldn’t cheat in an election? (I’m still amazed that we’ve just accepted that in a president.)

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  4. dazedandconfused Avatar
    dazedandconfused

    I’ll suggest the explosion of sources of “information” has been a factor. Through most of the 20th century there were only a few stations and newspapers, and for some reason they largely agreed on reality. Hence there was considerably more cooperation between the parties. The condition now more resembles the condition we had prior to our civil war, there were thousands of small new-rags also apparently financially addicted to telling some particular batch of folks the news they wanted to hear.

  5. …the geographical sorting of the parties…

    Sortings, plural. The first sorting, starting in the 60s, was the South switching from the Democrats and the Rockefeller Republicans disappearing in the Northeast. The second sorting, much less studied and still ongoing, started in the later 90s as the Midwest went Republican and the West went Democratic. Consider that today there are 16 Democratic US Senators from the 13-state West, and only seven from the 13-state Midwest. As recently as 2009-10 the Midwest had 16 Democratic Senators.

    California’s shift is occasionally acknowledged, but Colorado almost never is. After the 2004 elections, Colorado Republicans held all state-wide offices, 4-of-7 US House seats, and both chambers of the state legislature. This year the Democrats will win all of the statewide offices, may gain super-majorities in both chambers, and (if the money flows are to be believed) the four US House seats they currently hold are locks and all four held by Republicans are in play.

    The causes of the NE-South swap are regarded as well understood. The causes of the West-Midwest swap are much murkier.

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  6. I am not convinced, for example, that the electoral outcomes we will see in November would be especially different if there had been far less spending.

    I have really enjoyed this series of posts. That said…c’mon. That doesn’t even pass the giggle test.
    Talarico/Paxton would be no different? Really?
    The Michigan race would be the same without money? In the primary’s? Today?
    McKinley/Jennings invented the concept.
    Rick Scott proved it.
    The view from 100,000 feet is most of these assholes wouldn’t even be playing if it wasn’t for the money on tap.
    My main point – money creates the difference between public servants and politicians.
    1st job of any political reform – get rid of the money.

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  7. @Dayrl I think you are overlooking my modifier: “if there had been far less spending.”

    There is a good deal of evidence that campaign spending only helps on the margins. But, of course, no one is going to test this theory unilaterally.

    It is unlikely that most voters decide based on commercials.

    I may come back to this, time and energy permitting.

    The view from 100,000 feet is most of these assholes wouldn’t even be playing if it wasn’t for the money on tap.
    My main point – money creates the difference between public servants and politicians.

    This is a different claim (or maybe your main claim). But that isn’t at all what I was referring to.

    1. I realize that takes the discussion to another level re money but is, imho, unavoidable.

  8. I feel like I am missing something obvious, but this is a pretty good overview for sitting on the porch with my coffee this morning.

    I suggest what’s missing is white Christianist panic that their country was slipping out of their grasp – thus the frequent cries to “take it back”. For almost 250 years, white Christian* men took it for granted that they were the dominant class and power base in America, loyally supported by their white Christian wives. They voted without much thought for conservatives – not all of them (R) by any means – while enjoying a popular culture in which Americans unlike themselves were curiosities, second-class citizens or undesirables.

    Come the 21st century and they’re not allowed to use the word n****r anymore. They can’t even make jokes about dumb blondes because that’s “sexism”. They get criticised for everything from the big V8s they drive to their contempt for f**s, whom they have to call “gays”. And things just got worse and worse: Muslims started killing Americans, a Black (Muslim?) man become president, gays were allowed to marry each other, John Wayne was no longer the greatest movie star of all time, and so on. Americans like them are confidently predicted to become a minority in their own country within their lifetimes!

    They have endless petty grievances about the way America has changed to their perceived detriment, which made them easy pray for a political movement promising to make the country the way it used to be.

    *”Christian” in the sense they expected Christianity to be a shared source of basic moral values and cultural artefacts in American society, regardless of the extent of their own personal religiosity.

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  9. Thanks for the response. Again, I agree with most everything you are saying. I think maybe my disagreement is with the semantics or definitions, but I am not a political scientist so that means I am probably wrong. I dont really see the polarization or things like the South becoming monolithic GOP supporters as caused by our system but rather as a result of voters, especially the leaders for whom the voters are voting.

    Steve

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