Navy Secretary Fired

The ousting of top Defense leaders continues.

The 79th Secretary of the Navy, the Honorable John C. Phelan, delivers a speech during the USS Harvey C. Barnum Jr. ship commissioning at Naval Station Norfolk, Virginia, April 11, 2026.
Photo by Lance Cpl. Juaquin Greaves

NYT (“Navy Secretary Is Fired as Infighting Roils Pentagon“):

Navy Secretary John Phelan was fired on Wednesday after months of infighting with senior Pentagon leaders and disagreements over how to revive the Navy’s struggling shipbuilding program.

Mr. Phelan is leaving the Pentagon and the Trump administration effective immediately, wrote Sean Parnell, the Pentagon’s chief spokesman, in a terse statement.

In his role leading the Navy, Mr. Phelan had championed the “Golden Fleet,” a major investment in new ships including a “Trump-class” battleship. But Mr. Phelan’s leadership was marred by feuds with senior leaders in the Pentagon, including Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Deputy Defense Secretary Stephen Feinberg, Pentagon and congressional officials said.

Mr. Phelan is the first service secretary to leave the administration, though he is the second one to clash with the defense secretary. Mr. Hegseth also has butted heads with Army Secretary Daniel P. Driscoll over promotions and a host of other issues. Mr. Hegseth fired the Army’s chief of staff, Gen. Randy George, earlier this month.

The Navy secretary has no role overseeing deployed forces, and Mr. Phelan’s firing is not likely to have significant implications for the conduct of the Iran war or U.S. Navy operations to blockade Iranian ports or open the Strait of Hormuz. As the Navy’s top civilian leader, his main responsibility is to oversee the building of the future naval and Marine Corps force.

But the tumult could make it harder for the Navy to replenish its stock of Tomahawk missiles and high-end air defense systems, which have been in heavy use in Iran.

Tensions had been simmering for months between Mr. Phelan and his two bosses — Mr. Hegseth and Mr. Feinberg — over management style, personnel issues and other matters.

Mr. Feinberg, in particular, had grown increasingly dissatisfied with Mr. Phelan’s handling of the Navy’s major new shipbuilding initiative, and had been siphoning off responsibility for the project from him, said the congressional official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss personnel matters.

Mr. Phelan, a White House appointee, also had a contentious relationship with his deputy, Under Secretary Hung Cao, who is more aligned with Mr. Hegseth, especially on some of the social and cultural battles that have defined the defense secretary’s tenure, the officials said.

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Last fall, Mr. Hegseth fired Mr. Phelan’s chief of staff, Jon Harrison, who had clashed with senior officials throughout the Pentagon. The unusual move highlighted the broader tensions between Mr. Hegseth and Mr. Phelan.

Still, the timing of Mr. Phelan’s firing caught some Pentagon and congressional officials off guard. On Wednesday, Mr. Phelan was making the rounds on Capitol Hill, talking to senators about his upcoming annual hearing with lawmakers to discuss the Navy’s budget request and other priorities.

“Secretary Phelan’s abrupt dismissal is troubling,” Senator Jack Reed of Rhode Island, the top Democrat on the Armed Services Committee, said in a statement Wednesday night. “In the midst of President Trump’s war of choice in Iran, at a moment when our naval forces are stretched thin across multiple theaters, this kind of disruption at the top sends the wrong signal to our sailors and Marines, to our allies, and to our adversaries.”

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Bryan Clark, a naval analyst at the Hudson Institute, said that Mr. Phelan was “driving the Navy in a different direction” than what Mr. Hegseth and Mr. Feinberg wanted.

“He was championing initiatives like the battleship and frigate that don’t align with where the D.O.W. leadership is taking the military, which is toward submarines, stealth aircraft, unmanned systems and software-driven capabilities like electronic warfare and cyber,” Mr. Clark said in an email, using the abbreviation for Department of War, as the administration calls the Defense Department.

Mr. Phelan also clashed with Mr. Hegseth over personnel issues in the Navy and Marine Corps, a former senior military official said. Mr. Hegseth has directed service secretaries to scrub the social media accounts of general- and admiral-level promotion candidates to ensure they are not deemed too “woke” by Mr. Hegseth’s standards, the official said.

WaPo (“John Phelan forced out as Navy secretary after 13 months“) adds:

Five officials said that Phelan, a billionaire art collector and fundraiser for President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign, was forced out after repeated clashes with both Hegseth and Feinberg over his management of shipbuilding and a variety of other issues. One administration official, who like some others spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the issue’s sensitivity, said Phelan was asked to step down.

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Navy Undersecretary Hung Cao, a Navy veteran and former candidate for House and Senate seats in Virginia, will become the service’s acting secretary, Parnell said in his announcement. Hegseth has preferred Cao for the role for some time, officials said.

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The disputes between Phelan, Hegseth and Feinberg are part of a broader pattern of infighting that has occurred during Hegseth’s tenure leading the Pentagon. The defense secretary also has clashed repeatedly with Army Secretary Dan Driscoll over Hegseth’s moves to fire some generals and block others from promotion.

Parnell, in a statement earlier this month, claimed that Hegseth “maintains excellent working relationships with the secretaries of every military service branch.” But numerous officials said that is not the case.

“They’ve been out to get Driscoll and Phelan for a long time now,” one U.S. official familiar with the issue said Wednesday night.

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The administration had grown increasingly frustrated at the lack of progress from Phelan’s office in turning around the American shipbuilding industry, a priority of Trump’s, three U.S. officials said. One of them said that many of the Navy’s programs were behind schedule, and that Phelan had failed to make major changes or progress while in the role.

Feinberg had taken greater control over some shipbuilding programs, in an unusual sign of the Pentagon’s top leadership becoming directly involved in the service’s marquee purchases. There was a sense that Navy leadership was resisting the Trump administration’s intended direction for the service and that contributed to Phelan’s removal, the official said, noting that others should interpret the secretary’s removal as a warning.

Hunter Stires, who served as maritime strategist to Navy Secretary Carlos Del Toro during the Biden administration, said that Phelan committed a “grave strategic as well as political error” this week by signaling his openness to outsourcing production of the Navy’s warships to shipyards abroad.

“Everything’s on the table,” Phelan said during an appearance at the Sea-Air-Space conference outside Washington, according to the Navy Times. “We just need to look at it, understand it, understand the implications behind it and decide if we think that makes sense or not.”

Stires said the comments “directly undercut” a bipartisan strategy for shipbuilding championed by the Trump administration that aims to incentivize shipbuilders to invest in modernizing and expanding U.S. shipyards. Phelan’s exit, Stires said, “should be read as a stark and welcome signal that outsourcing U.S. naval construction is and must remain a nonstarter.”

There also was tension between Hegseth and Phelan after Hegseth directed the Navy secretary in December to determine whether Sen. Mark Kelly (D-Arizona), a retired Navy captain, should face repercussions for appearing in a video that advised service members of their duty not to follow illegal orders, officials familiar with the matter said.

Hegseth had Phelan review whether Kelly’s involvement in the video should merit any action by the Pentagon. Phelan provided his recommendation to Hegseth in mid-December, though the Navy did not disclose publicly what he advised. Hegseth later announced the Pentagon was escalating the review into a full command investigation, which was later blocked by a federal court. The Defense Department has said it intends to appeal the decision.

WSJ (“Pete Hegseth Fires Navy Secretary John Phelan“) adds:

Phelan’s firing comes after a rocky tenure under Hegseth and Feinberg, including tension over Phelan’s close relationship with Trump, according to three people familiar with the internal discussions. Phelan regularly chats with Trump at his Mar-a-Lago club, just down the street from his own Florida home, and told lawmakers last year that he exchanges texts with the president about shipbuilding in the middle of the night.

The top Pentagon leaders were particularly annoyed last fall when Phelan pitched the idea for a modern battleship directly to Trump, bypassing Hegseth, the people said.

Since then, Hegseth and Feinberg have worked to undermine Phelan by creating a new czar for submarine acquisition—a portfolio that typically sits within the Navy—who reports directly to Feinberg, the people said.

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The firing comes in the middle of the Navy’s biggest conference of the year, after Phelan spent the past few days pitching defense industry and the media on the Navy’s top priorities. It also comes the day after the Pentagon rolled out the details of its budget request to Congress, including $65.8 billion for shipbuilding.

To the extent Hegseth and his service secretaries have different visions for the Department, his should either prevail or the President should remove him. Presumably, despite Phelan’s close relationship with the President, Trump sided with Hegseth.

As to the shipbuilding program, there is simply no way that it was going to be turned around in the thirteen months he held the post. We long ago gutted our shipyards and have a massive shortage of skilled workers that is likely to get worse before it gets better, as most of that workforce is nearing retirement age. To the extent his focus was on the “wrong” kind of vessels, that’s again a policy dispute that seems to have been settled in favor of those higher in the chain of command. (While I haven’t quite sussed out how the Pentagon operates under the Trump 47 team, the Deputy Secretary traditionally runs the day-to-day operation of the building, while the Secretary handles higher-level policy matters.)

All that said, the degree of turmoil and turnover at the highest levels of the Department, a mere fifteen months into the administration, is highly unusual, to say the least. I’ve never seen anything like it.

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  1. Scott says:

    “He was championing initiatives like the battleship and frigate that don’t align with where the D.O.W. leadership is taking the military, which is toward submarines, stealth aircraft, unmanned systems and software-driven capabilities like electronic warfare and cyber,” Mr. Clark said in an email, using the abbreviation for Department of War, as the administration calls the Defense Department.

    Now I happen to agree with this. The idea of battleships in this day and age is just dumb and a waste of money. However, I suspect this may be an excuse as Hegseth and company are more interested in culture wars and posturing than the actual business of building and buying things.

    Feinberg, on the other hand, seems to be a more typical appointee. A private equity guy playing at government. He’s been around and a conservative but I don’t get a sense that he’s of the MAGA type. Could be wrong.

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  2. Scott says:

    Two Navy stories:

    Navy having no problems feeding sailors in Middle East, admiral says in denying reports

    Sailors serving in the Middle East are not going hungry, the Navy’s highest officer said this week. Ships in the Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group have at least a 10-day supply of food, Adm. Daryl Caudle, chief of naval operations, said Monday. He noted that many of those vessels have enough food to feed their crews for 30 days or more, according to a Navy Times report. “In no way, shape or form has there been a time where in, at least in this deployment, where they’ve not met the nutritional requirements of our menu,” Caudle said during a meeting with reporters at a maritime conference in Maryland.

    There are at least 16,500 sailors and Marines already in the Middle East, with some 6,000 more on the way as part of the George H.W. Bush Carrier Strike Group. It was unclear Tuesday how many supply vessels were in the area to ensure that those ships had adequate stores of food and other necessities, such as body wash, shampoo, toothpaste and other personal care items.

    Report: Three Injured in Fire Aboard USS Zumwalt

    A fire aboard the first-in-class destroyer USS Zumwalt has injured three sailors, according to the U.S. Navy.

    Zumwalt is currently at shipyard in Pascagoula, Mississippi to undergo modifications needed to launch the service’s next-generation hypersonic missile. Launch tubes and equipment have replaced both of the Zumwalt’s iconic deck guns, which were designed to deliver high velocity, high tech shore bombardment from a stealthy platform.

    According to USNI and Naval Surface Forces, a fire was reported aboard Zumwalt at about 2145 hours on April 19. The crew managed to put it out, but three sailors were injured; two were treated at the scene, and the third was taken to the hospital. All are in stable condition.

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  3. Scott says:

    I’ve never seen anything like it.

    Neither have I. But this is a time to see if institutions can hold. “Move fast and break things” attitude results in breaking things.

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  4. He was unqualified and I am not sorry to see him go (but this will be true of the next one, I suspect). Of course this is just another example of the incompetence of this administration.

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  5. charontwo says:

    @Scott:

    “Move fast and break things”

    This works in specific situations, notably writing software – get it functioning, sort of, then debug it.

    This approach fails badly in most other environments.

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  6. Charley in Cleveland says:

    The Pentagon now is what an elite university would look like if the dean was replaced by the towel snapping president of Tappa Kegga Bru. Not surprising to see Trump’s sycophants engaging in turf wars, but this is a sobering reminder that the most powerful military in the world is subject to the whims of unqualified, unfit asshats who are trying to impress the uber unfit, unqualified asshat at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

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  7. James Joyner says:

    @Steven L. Taylor: It’s not unprecedented for SECNAV to have little to no background in defense matters (Ray Mabus, who served the entirety of Obama’s tenure, had been governor of Mississippi; he did serve two years as a very junior Navy officer decades before). But it’s highly unusual to have neither a significant defense background nor to have run a major enterprise before. (Gordon England, who held the job twice during the GW Bush administration, had been a bigwig at a major defense firm.)

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  8. Michael Cain says:

    Am I reading the quoted pieces correctly that one of the problems for Phelan was that he supported building the battleships Trump ordered, and people between him and the President don’t?

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  9. DK says:

    …there is simply no way that it was going to be turned around in the thirteen months he held the post. We long ago gutted our shipyards and have a massive shortage of skilled workers that is likely to get worse before it gets better, as most of that workforce is nearing retirement age.

    Seems like a case of where there’s a will there’s a guess. If Russia bombed New York or China bombed Seattle, guessing we’d hasten our industrial capacity.

    That so many labor stakeholders are headed towards retirement is good: they have prevented modernization, equipment upgrades, and technological uptake embraced long ago by China’s commercial and military ports and shipyards. Workers need to be retrained in and reorganized around automation and robotics. The current crop of longshoremen et al. are resistant — too fearful of labor displacement to let us get on with progression in scale and speed.

    So, yes let them retire. Hopefully comfortably, with dignity, and on the sooner side.

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  10. Scott F. says:

    Presumably, despite Phelan’s close relationship with the President, Trump sided with Hegseth.

    This assumes Trump gives a moment’s thought to personnel decisions anywhere in the government, even when/if they’re “reviewed” with him. I presume that if it’s not about the ballroom or the market’s reaction to the latest from Iran, then Trump doesn’t give a fig and none of the tiny capacity of his addled brain is given to it.

    One might think that in a time of war exceptional care would be given to the morale and engagement of the military from top to bottom. When it’s the Trump administration, one would be thinking wrong.

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