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Democratic Socialists on the Rise?

Young Democrats, especially, view the group favorably.

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CNN (“CNN Poll: A third of Democrats now identify as democratic socialists“):

About a third of Democrats and Democratic-leaning adults identify as democratic socialists, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.

Both the headline and the lede misapprehend the polling. On page 20, we see that 18% of those surveyed have a favorable opinion of The Democratic Socialists of America, compared to 36% with an unfavorable opinion, 25% who’ve never heard of them, and 21% with no opinion. On page 33, we see that 42% of Democrats have a favorable opinion, compared to 7% with an unfavorable opinion, 27% who’ve never heard of them, and 24% with no opinion. The numbers are slightly different for those who merely lean Democratic.

Having a favorable opinion of an organization is not the same as “identifying” as a member.

And, of course, there are the usual caveats about polling. The survey sampled 1225 adults, which means a margin of sampling error of +/- 3.2%. The error for subsamples (28% of those sampled identified as Democrats) is larger. And there’s always the matter of folks who agree to participate in a lengthy survey being increasingly unrepresentative.

All that said, the combination of the favorable opinion of Democrats here toward the DSA and the handful of examples of DSA-identifying candidates winning Democratic primaries, often against incumbents or establishment-backed candidates, is not nothing.

This also tracks with my intuition:

Who makes up the democratic socialist wing of the Democratic Party’s base? According to CNN’s poll, Democratic-aligned Americans who identify as democratic socialists:

  • Tend to be younger (59% are younger than 45, compared to 46% of non-democratic socialists aligned with the Democratic Party) and are more likely to be White (57% to 49%)
  • Are less likely to have a college degree (66% to 54%) and more likely to earn less than $100,000 a year (76% to 65%)
  • Are more likely to say they are extremely motivated to vote this year (66% of those who are registered voters say so, compared to 57% for non-democratic socialists), though both groups overwhelmingly support Democratic congressional candidates (99% of democratic socialists and 94% of non-democratic socialists)
  • Are more positive toward the Democratic Party. They are more likely to hold favorable views of the Democratic Party (68% to 60%) and its congressional leaders, and more likely to have negative views of the Republican Party and its congressional leaders

Although democratic socialists are just as likely as other Democratic-leaning Americans to say the Democratic Party needs to be completely reformed or needs major changes, they are more likely to see as positive changing the current leadership of the party and nominating younger candidates. Notably, they are nearly twice as likely to support the party moving to the left on policy issues.

Honestly, it’s not obvious to me how “Democratic Socialist” differs from “progressive” here. While most progressives have eschewed the “socialist” label because it allows opponents to tar them as Communist, Bernie Sanders, AOC, and a handful of others have embraced it.

Beyond that, I see it as part and parcel of the frustration, which has manifested in different ways in both of our major parties for quite a long time now, with the system as a whole. Going back to at least the 2008 financial crisis, there has been a sense that the establishment wings of both parties is more aligned to the interests of Wall Street than the average American. Sanders got quite a bit of traction with that during the 2012 Democratic primaries and, of course, Donald Trump rode it to the 2016 Republican nomination.

Democratic socialists also split from the rest of the party on US aid to Israel – 48% say they’d be enthusiastic about a candidate who believes the US should cut support to Israel, compared to 20% for non-democratic socialists. Three years into the war in Gaza, the issue has animated many Democratic primaries this cycle.

It’s rare that foreign policy gets much traction in American politics, but the Gaza war has indeed catalyzed a large part of the Democratic base. It almost certainly hurt Kamala Harris in the last election.

Democratic-aligned adults are generally comfortable with the possibility of their party nominating a candidate who identifies as a democratic socialist.

While enthusiasm is considerably higher among democratic socialists, 64% of Democratic-aligned adults who do not identify as democratic socialists would be at least OK with such a candidate, while 36% would be upset or uneasy.

Ultimately, Democratic primary voters will select a candidate, not a movement. I certainly wouldn’t count AOC out in 2028. She was (barely) old enough to run last go-around, but was boxed out by Joe Biden’s decision to run for re-election and then the party’s decision to hand the nomination to Harris.

13 responses to “Democratic Socialists on the Rise?”

  1. I think you put your finger on it, that the frustration is that many people (this 65 YO middle manager included) see the problems as systemic in nature, not amenable to small-ball fixes.

    Not just in the economic sphere, but what we see is a vast system of elite impunity where, given the right connections to money and power, a person can be effectively above the law.

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  2. While most progressives have eschewed the “socialist” label because it allows opponents to tar them as Communist, Bernie Sanders, AOC, and a handful of others have embraced it.

    The fact that claiming the “socialist” label makes it far easier for opponents to tar progressives as Communist than claiming the “Republican” label allows opponents to tar conservatives as Fascist tells you everything you need to know about the political state we live in right now.

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    1. The fact that claiming the “socialist” label makes it far easier for opponents to tar progressives as Communist than claiming the “Republican” label allows opponents to tar conservatives as Fascist tells you everything you need to know about the political state we live in right now.
      Yeah, Bill Maher is obsessed with messaging that DSA-Democrats are advocating Communist policies. Absurd bullshit, but many others on the Right are running with this too.

      Democrats cannot let this bullshit go unanswered. They need to respond: How about something like: “Why don’t you just admit it – you want to put an end to Social Security and Medicare.”

  3. I think Atrios pretty well nailed it yesterday,

    I don’t think all disagreement in politics lacks greater substance, but a lot of what is presented as “centrists nobly fighting the left” is really about one faction of people, and their outriders in the broader political-media-consulting industrial complex, being worried about being displaced by people aren’t supposed to be there.

    It’s not their place. They might trash it!

    Worth a read of the whole brief post.

    I am really pissed at the Dem Party. Republicans have evolved into being not only evil, but absurd. And D party approval still runs lower than the GOPs. In a couple of red states polling shows the R beating the D, but losing to an Independent, because the D brand is so soiled. Wishy-washy centrists have allowed GOPs to define the D brand.

    The Party needs a positive image. And the Dem Socialists are trying to create it the only way our weak parties allow, by winning primaries.

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      And D party approval still runs lower than the GOPs.

      That’s not shocking, though, for an out party. A lot of the disapproval comes from people who will absolutely vote Democrat, who are simply frustrated with the party’s inability to stop Trump.

      As to Atrios’s post, it’s essentially tautological. Of course those who are professional Establishment Democrats want the party to be run by the Establishment. I think for the broader party, a lot of it is about tone and style as much as anything else. Even as a non-Democrat who votes that way given the alternative, I far prefer Elizabeth Warren to Bernie Sanders, even though they’re not that far apart on policy.

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  4. I’m guessing most people who support the DSA are pro-commerce but anti-capitalism. I live in the most DSA-centric area in America, and everybody loves or is at least content with small markets, real work, and actual exchange. What they hate is capitalism and its endless nickle-and-dime platforming and verticalization and managerial nonsense, not to mention the fact that everyone who is its mouthpiece is an off-putting psycho.

    That’s why the DSA keeps on running engaged candidates who dwell offline whereas everyone else in politics is still talking about how to politicize the burning issue of trans kids and the sum total of roughly three detransitioners who exist in America. Or they’re going on about the ‘cool kids’ while taking in 50 million from AIPAC and getting beat by 15 points in a poll.

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  5. “Democrat”, “socialist”, “communist”, “democratic-socialist”
    – all a poll like this shows is that these words have shifting meanings and that the average voter has only the very vaguest idea what they mean and who they represent. (And thank you, James, for noting that the statistical “margin of error” is the least of the sources of error in polling.)

    And don’t get me started on “progressive”. I’m old enough to have seen the word come back into use and evolve. In the 90s Frank Luntz, Newt Gingrich, et al succeeded in making “liberal” a bad word. The chicken spit Dems of the time (some things never change) started defensively calling themselves “progressives”. “Progressive” seems to have evolved to now denote anyone to the left of the particular pundit using it, i.e. the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party. Ironically, a hundred plus years ago “progressive” meant anti-trust, anti-plutocrat, pro-worker, even honest to gawd (as opposed to Republican faux) populist. Exactly what we need in this new Gilded Age.

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  6. IMO, “Democratic Socialist” is just another way that Democrats allow Republicans to control the messaging, to their detriment. this scares way centrist Dems and Indys. Oddly, the only party with leaders touting socialist policies are the republicans, with proposals to take a steak in tech companies and purchasing 5 – 15% of financial companies. Adjusting the social contract for fair pay (capitalism) and benefits in exchange for work at a private company (capitalism) has nothing to do with socialism. Indexing social security can be affiliated with socialism, but you have to have worked and paid into the system to get benefits. Medicare is also a subsidy to the private medical industry, also not socialism.

    The polling would be completely different if the questions were about policy.

    1. I actually am happy that those who want to wear the label Democratic Socialist are not scared of owning the label.

      Also, James had that great post a couple weeks (or sooner?) back where he was like who knew that Commies (my word, not James’s) wanted the government to provide free health care for all and cut everyone’s rent in half and make it way easier for someone who wants to work in a nail and/or hair salon to get credentialed as efficiently, and cheaply as possible so they do not have to spend 2 years jumping through hoops and being nickeled and dimed to death with fees before they have had a chance to set one foot in the Salon and earn their first nickel.

      I mean, the post is not that old and folks can check it out for themselves but the above is kinda sorta what James’s was pointing out in his post.

      Republican’s at the moment are also slightly distracted by President Trump trying to Federalize Elections which has even quite a few Republican politicians rattled.

      Who knew, I learned today that Trump has called the Governor of Oklahoma (I presume a very Red State) a RINO because he has warned Trump against a White House takeover of elections, and yet he had to also toss in that he supports the SAVE act in the article I read.

      Sigh, Mr. Governor your fellow citizens will not turn on you if you just are honest and say the SAVE act blows rancid chunks and it is a blatant attempt to steal elections. As Sam Kinison might say…Just Say It!, Say It!

      Being labelled a RINO by a President who while still a danger to world but is going to be out the door of the White House soon enough will not harm your future political aspirations.

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  7. I think the big issue that impacts most people is medical care in all its forms. When candidates talk about that they do better. And the candidate that proposes a valid transition plan from employer based healthcare to a society based plan will do well. Heck, I wonder why employers want to be involved in healthcare at all. They could cut costs and shrink HR if we took responsibility from them.

    BTW, it is the 60th anniversary of Medicare and Medicaid. Courtesy of Heather Cox Richardson, here is a history of those two programs.

    https://substack.com/home/post/p-209209841

  8. Like there’s a single Democrat the Republiqans haven’t called a communist?

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  9. What a shitty branding effort.
    I mean…to the level of malpractice.
    SMFH.

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      The pundits like the labeling game because it’s easier to fill air-time with and wonky details tend to bore people. Bored people = People who channel surf.

      Skimmed through about a dozen articles and nary a one tried in a serious manner to define the term.