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Many Surgeries Are Unnecessary and Unhelpful

The evidence is mounting.

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The Economist (“Many surgical interventions are little better than placebo“):

EACH YEAR, according to the World Health Organisation, over 300m operations are conducted worldwide. Patients in the rich world are more likely to go under the knife—about 60% of people in England are expected to undergo surgery at least once in their lifetime. Some of these procedures are clearly life-saving, such as organ transplants and emergency Caesareans. But as the number of other operations continues to grow, some in the field are starting to ask an awkward question: how many are really necessary?

Answers have long been hard to come by, in part because few randomised controlled trials (RCTs), the gold-standard type of research used to assess medications, were conducted on surgical procedures. That made it difficult to know if patients got better more often with surgery than they might have without. This is now changing. The number of surgical RCTs funded by Britain’s National Institute for Health and Care Research increased from 34 in 2011 to 188 in 2023, and national surgical-trials programmes are active across Europe as well as in Australia and Canada.

The results are upending the field. Removing an inflamed appendix, an operation that around 5-10% of people have had at some point in their life, has turned out to be no better for most patients than a course of antibiotics. Trials comparing different surgical techniques have also revealed that cheaper and less complex operations can be more effective. Most striking, the data show that some widely used surgical procedures, such as spinal fusions and rotator-cuff repairs, have effects indistinguishable from placebo or non-surgical care such as physiotherapy.

Worse, some types of surgery may do more harm than good. A trial in Britain found that prostate-cancer surgery had no effect on patient mortality 15 years on, but worsened sexual and urological problems. A Finnish trial of a common knee procedure, meanwhile, concluded that patients who had real surgery had more problems in the affected knee ten years on than those who had had sham surgery (anaesthesia followed by a superficial incision). David Ring, an orthopaedic surgeon at the University of Texas at Austin, reckons that most operations in his field may be unnecessary. Surgery itself, it would seem, could use a major intervention.

It turns out that most of the perceived benefits result from a combination of the placebo effect and the body’s natural healing.

Then there’s this:

The nature of a country’s health system also plays a role. Disfavoured operations decline faster in countries where surgeons are salaried, as in Britain and Scandinavia, than in countries such as America where they are paid per operation and act as small businesses. Shoulder surgeries to remove a bone spur fell from 28,000 in Britain in 2016-17 to 5,720 in 2019-20, after trials found that the procedure was no better in alleviating pain than sham surgery. In America the procedure remained popular.

But it is not just surgeons who need to trust the data: a growing number of patients insist on surgery on the basis of inconclusive tests. All too often, says Dr Ring, scans reveal abnormalities that are little more than tissue tears; as natural a by-product of ageing as wrinkles and grey hair. What’s more, he says, these things are unlikely to be what is causing patients’ problems. A growing number of studies, in fact, show that the abnormalities in knees, backs and shoulders that orthopaedic surgeons try to fix are very common in people who have no symptoms at all.

But the promise of a quick fix is hard to resist. “It is becoming more and more difficult to say ‘no’ to the patient,” says Dr Lohmander. In America some surgeons fear their patients will leave them a bad review online, and insurance companies still cover ineffective procedures for fear of losing customers to their competitors.

The free market at work!

26 responses to “Many Surgeries Are Unnecessary and Unhelpful”

  1. Surgery is what surgeons do, so it is the preferred answer. Not to forget that surgery is lucrative for the medical center, not just the surgeon.

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    1. Surgery is what surgeons do

      This discussion has been going on for decades. I a more succinct old adage, “Cutters cut.” Perhaps we should treat surgery like prescription drugs, the prescriber doesn’t provide.

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  2. I don’t know what one is supposed to do with this info. Surgery might be a statistical gamble, but so what? A decade ago, I had a benign schwannoma removed from right shoulder. That sucker was 5 cm, made of nerve cells, and pulsing in my brachial plexus. Getting rid of it improved my quality of life by around 100000%.

    Quality of life is real. I was waking up with random shocks of electric pain in my shoulder at two in the morning. There’s no way I could have lived with that thing without ending up with a serious opiate problem. And with a neural surgeon and a shoulder surgeon, the bill from the hospital to the insurer around 80K, so I guess they made out well for a few hours work.

    What’s being described is modern medicine’s relationship with a first-world population filled with authentic problems with getting old (and which are probably magnified by more mundane health issues). Yeah, some guy doing research ends up wanting back surgery which will miraculously let him play golf again at 60. It’s on doctors to work with this man and help him, not be like damn doesn’t he grasp he reality. Also, the article is trying to make it sound like insurers are being victimized by their customers, which is ridiculous.

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    1. Your case is completely different than the prostrate cases I describe below. You had real symptoms that affected your quality of life. I don’t think anyone would put that in the category of “unnecessary surgery”. On top of that, I suspect that the possible negative side effects of the surger were negligible.

  3. A trial in Britain found that prostate-cancer surgery had no effect on patient mortality 15 years on, but worsened sexual and urological problems.

    I used to design surgical devices and sat on a team my company put together to consider acquiring Intuitive, the maker of the DaVinci surgical robot which at the time was being used mostly for prostrate surgeries. As a result of being on that I no longer have an annual exam of my prostrate. Some interesting things:
    1) The standard American metric for cancer interventions is 5 year survival rate and prostrate surgery has a phenomenal 5 year rate. However, since most (but not 100%) of prostrate cancers are slow moving, doing nothing would also have a great 5 year survival rate
    2) The big three side effects of surgery are incontinence, sexual dysfunction and pain, and these impact a significant percentage of patients. For decades though, this was minimized because (see above) the most important metric in the US is 5 year survival rate.
    3) The US has had great success with early screening for signs of cancer, and this can make a very real difference for a wide variety of tumors. But the emphasis on screening for prostrate cancer means that many people are diagnosed and become aware they have a tumor when the reality is that they have no symptoms and depending on their age are quite likely to die of old age before the tumor gets significant. Once you are aware that you have cancer in your body, your first thought is “GET IT OUT GET IT OUT GET IT OUT!!!!”
    3) Europe’s nationalized health care systems (which vary widely by country) depend much more on Best Practice guidance, and European best practices for prostrate cancer testing is to wait for symptoms to develop before testing. This means that they tend to only find serious cancer, and miss all the slow growing tumors. Because of this, their 5 year rate for prostate surgery is lower than the US, but since they perform much, much fewer prostrate surgeries the death rate due to prostrate cancer is essentially equal to the US. The difference is that there are millions of Europeans who are not suffering incontinence, sexual dysfunction or pain for a decade or more.
    4) Unlike the mandated Best Practices model in Europe, US is much more “consultation between a patient and their doctor”. The US is also a much much more medically litigious society. This means that while oncologist might recommend watchful waiting to their patients, they are incentivized to not work too hard to convince their patients to forgo chemo, radiation and/or surgery, as if the patient follows their advice and later develops more severe cancer, they will quite possibly sue the doctor. My understanding is that a European physician who follows Best Practices guidance is relatively immune from litigation, but in the US every trial is unique and just about how convincing the lawyers are, and how much more sympathetic a patient is rather than the physicians insurance company.

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  4. Re: appendicitis

    I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure the rate of appendectomy within 5 years for patients treated only with antibiotics approaches 50%.

    1. This has been a debate for at least 40 years. I had a good friend who got appendicitis with regularity, debilitating enough that the way I met her was that she was at a party that one of my roommates was at and she couldn’t drive herself home, so she ended up at our place (and later married the roommate, but that’s a different story). Yes, antibiotics or just time eventually resolved it, every time, but she wanted the surgery because of the impact on her life from the flare ups. Surgery is one and done.

  5. I am fascinated by the “sham surgeries.” They tell people they need surgery, knock them out, make a wee nick and then study them?

    How is this billed? How is this legal?

    I think it’s good that these questions are being asked. There was a Blue Cross/Blue Shield analysis that came out I think last week examining the role of AI use. Hospitals were using AI to screen patient data for secondary ailments, and then billing these as medically complex cases in order to increase the reimbursement rates. Insurers are using AI to deny claims. The cost of implementing AI for BC/BS is approaching $1B, and there was no notable improvement in patient care.

    ONE BILLION DOLLARS. And no improvement for the actual patients.

    1. How is this billed?

      People who are in a study don’t get billed. They know ahead of time that they may get the real surgery or a placebo, same as for drugs. And yes, an incision is made and then stapled shut.

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      1. Ah…further evidence that my reduction in caffeine intake is affecting my thought processes. It did not occur to me that they were part of a study–I didn’t associate going into surgery with studies.

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  6. Years ago now, in a health care public policy class, a visiting researcher told us that when a new cardiac surgeon moves to a metro area, the number of cardiac surgeries performed goes up. Always. Every single time. The AMA, she said, wants everyone to believe that there is a population of people who need heart surgery but aren’t getting it everywhere. Her research group believed that there is a population who can be convinced they need heart surgery everywhere, and that the two groups are not the same.

  7. About 15 years ago my dad had some back issues that, the doctors agreed, required surgery. I forget why the surgery got cancelled (after being admitted to the hospital); some other medical issue, I think. So they tried physiotherapy instead, and the issue got better after a few weeks. Surgery was not needed.

    Late in 2021 my mom had knee replacement surgery. There were problems (like they had the wrong prosthesis and delayed surgery while they got the right one). She recovered well enough to walk without assistance after a while, but the pain on her knee joints remained.

    A second surgery followed, with a different surgeon. They added something, I never found out what. the pain remained. So they tried a third surgery to replace the prosthesis. This one worked well, no pain. But then prosthesis got infected. She’s had three more surgeries since and has something called a spacer rather than a metal prosthesis now. She can walk, but requires a walker. She has physiotherapy several times a week, too, and requires a home care aide 24/7.

    So, it might have been best not to do the original knee replacement surgery to begin with.

    Sometimes surgery is necessary if there is no other effective course of treatment. But if there are alternatives, IMO surgery should be the last resort.

    1. I feel so bad for your mother. But speaking as half of a couple with only 1 real knee left between us (and that to go to 0 by this time next month), we are both so glad we had it done, and I’m looking forward to replacing this remaining one. When I do yoga and put any, and I mean any, side force on it, I can feel it popping and twisting through gristle and cartilage, and that is no fun at all!

      1. I know of other people who’ve had knee replacements, some far younger than my mom, and mostly it works out. The big issue with my mom was the infection after the third surgery.

        But then she doesn’t communicate clearly with me. I don’t know how bad the pain was, how constant, or how it degraded her life.

        1. FWIW, the pre-surgery routine for my procedure is pretty thorough. Ointment up the noise for 5 days before to kill off anything in the sinuses, new sheets on the bed the night before, then wash with some toxic soap all over, clean pajamas, then get up the day of the surgery, change the bed linen again, shower with the special soap again. There is also so much less wound care than when my wife had her first knee 15 years ago. Basically I get what looks like a giant bandaid that I can shower with after a couple of days, and it doesn’t come off until the wound is closed

  8. Michael Reynolds Avatar
    Michael Reynolds

    This is a current question for me. I saw two orthopedic surgeons on the matter of a hip replacement. Both advised doing it, but I am suspicious. I keep hearing Charlie Munger in my head: show me the incentives and I’ll show you the outcome. Surgeons want to perform surgery. It’s almost a , ‘Hey, why not?’ attitude.

    My wife has two titanium hips and both worked out great. Quick recovery, no bad side effects, improved life. But she had a lot of bone-on-bone pain, whereas I have a pinched nerve that may be responsible for 70% of my fairly mild symptoms. It would be great to get an un-incentivized opinion, but since that doesn’t exist in the US system, I’m left unconvinced and in limbo.

    I asked one surgeon – at Cedars no less – if there was any chance a hip replacement would exacerbate the nerve pain. He gave me a flat, ‘no.’ Well, that was a lie. A motivated lie.

    Also, BTW, had not one, not two, but four prostate biopsies because of rising PSA. All negative. I’ve made it clear to my PCP, that we are done with prostate questions. I’m 72. At his point if prostate cancer is going to kill me, well, fair dues: it escaped detection on four occasions and deserves the kill.

    1. I can tell you with certainty that surgeons know surgery, but beyond that they don’t know nearly as much as an orthopedic physician or a pain specialist. The surgeons I’ve met are very insular, and tend to see things as surgical issue. That’s not a knock on them, they are paid to do surgery and nothing else. A pain specialist might be able to determine if it is a nerve issue, but a surgeon doesn’t have that specialty.

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    2. Is it possible that if the problem is a pinched nerve that you should be consulting with a chiropractor rather than a surgeon/ orthopedist?

      1. FWIW, I would never go to a chiropractor first. They aren’t doctors (and all to many believe in magic woo-woo) and they won’t be able to diagnose an illness. Years ago one of the member of the racquetball club I belonged to died after he spent months going to a chiropractor until he started losing dramatic amounts of weight and it turned out he had cancer, which had gone to stage 4 by the time he finally got it diagnosed. The chiropractor never recommended he go to a real doctor

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        1. Nobody said anything about going to see a chiropractor first until you showed up. But as soon as I started writing my comment, I knew that someone was going to play the chiropractor=witch doctor card. I even expected it to be you. How’s that for audience awareness?

      2. I’d suggest seeing a good physical therapist. A D-PT or PhD. I’ve twice had surgeons recommend spine surgeries, which I declined. In both cases it was physical therapists that actually fixed it, stretching, exercise, and time.

      3. Skip the Chiropractor middle-man and just go chat with the ghost in your closet or basement. Chiropractic is a complete fraud.

        Seriously, the guy who founded it learned it from a ghost. And it hasn’t been shown to be effective even with lower back pain.

  9. A few years ago, my shoulder pain got to the point that reaching for a cup of coffee could have me on the verge of screaming. Rolling over in bed actually would make me scream.

    I went to an orthopedic surgeon who looked at the imaging and said “I… I’ve never seen anything like that. I have no idea what I would do to fix it. You’re going to need to get a shoulder replacement” BUT… he flat out refused to do it on someone my age (mid 50s at the time).

    I’ve been able to reduce the pain by completely changing how I move my body–including how I get dressed, how I drive, how I reach for things. It has significantly impacted my life. I’m just waiting until I can get it replaced.

    1. As a fleeting thought, I’d be curious to know what rationale this doctor is using to declare someone too young for an already necessary joint replacement. But setting that aside, congratulations on finding a way to continue functioning and best wishes for your continuing success with your remediation and even better wishes for shortening the waiting period.

      1. Artificial joints have a life span (usually 20-30 years). Replacing it when I’m 50 would mean replacing it again at 80–which is much more complicated and likely to cause problems I couldn’t recover from.

  10. I was in such pain from a degraded hip joint that I would soon have needed a walker or wheelchair to get around. A hip replacement fixed the problem completely. I wouldn’t hesitate to get the other one done if it goes the same way.

    On the other hand I have lower back pain which comes and goes. It slows me down when it’s bad, but I can still function. For 15 years I’ve firmly rejected GPs’ offers to refer me to a back surgeon. I don’t think I’ve ever read a first-hand story of someone’s back pain being cured by surgery; certainly I’ve never known it to happen to anyone personally. But I know a couple of people for whom surgery made things worse.

    At the end of the day we’re all responsible for managing our own health. Meekly submitting without question to the advice of the establishment which makes huge amounts of money identifying and treating “patients” is dumb.

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