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Steven L. Taylor
About Steven L. Taylor
Steven L. Taylor is a retired Professor of Political Science and former College of Arts and Sciences Dean. His main areas of expertise include parties, elections, and the institutional design of democracies. His most recent book is the co-authored A Different Democracy: American Government in a 31-Country Perspective. He earned his Ph.D. from the University of Texas and his BA from the University of California, Irvine. He has been blogging since 2003 (originally at the now defunct Poliblog). Follow Steven on Twitter and/or BlueSky.

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  1. charontwo says:

    DJT, aspiring to be a new Sun King.

    WaPo

    Site would not let me do this as a gift article.

    Every U.S. president has adapted the Oval Office to suit his taste. Franklin Delano Roosevelt placed an animal hide rug on the floor. John F. Kennedy, a World War II naval officer, hung seascapes on the walls. And Barack Obama featured indigenous ceramics on the shelves. But Trump has gone golden, taking the office into baroque and rococo realms typical of 17th- and 18th-century French monarchs. An analysis in the Cut called the decoration “An Interior Designer’s Nightmare.” But the sparkle conveys something more insidious about how Trump views himself. Behold the new Sun King, a wannabe emperor who views his powers as absolute — who governs by executive order, and has been recorded giggling in his gilded chamber with Salvadoran autocrat Nayib Bukele as his administration defies a unanimous Supreme Court ruling that he facilitate the return of a Salvadoran immigrant who was wrongly deported. God save us from the king.

    Lots of pictures in the piece.

    For the most part, U.S. presidents have adhered to the broad contours of the Federal style when decorating the office (though FDR was partial to clutter). But Trump is the only one who seems intent on transforming it into one of those rococo period rooms at the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Where previous leaders have featured a small selection of paintings, Trump has stuffed the room with a salon-style hang of canvases that includes an array of U.S. presidents, along with Benjamin Franklin. In between, he has added military flags and ornate, baroque-style mirrors in gilded frames. Modern bronze busts of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and Winston Churchill sit incongruously on console tables supported by gilded eagles. On the central coffee table rests a stack of bright golden coasters. With each passing news conference, the Oval Office increasingly resembles the highly ornamented Hall of Mirrors at the Palace of Versailles — a space that will make you dizzy with decoration

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    The world of King Louis XIV is the world that Trump is building for himself both aesthetically and politically. The White House media apparatus has actively promoted the idea of Trump as a king — even releasing an illustration that shows him wearing a crown. In his Oval Office surroundings, Trump offers aesthetic spectacle. In the way his administration has carried out its deportations, he provides political spectacle: masked ICE agents smashing immigrants out of their cars, a university student cuffed at a citizenship interview, the deportation of hundreds to an inhumane megaprison in El Salvador — no due process, no appeal, no explanation. Trump’s gilded gewgaws and our growing authoritarian state are intimately connected. In the United States in 2025, l’etat c’est Trump.

    In the presidential memorandum on “Promoting Beautiful Federal Civic Architecture,” the Trump administration describes the need to honor the “traditional” architectural heritage of the United States. But in his taste for the gloss of French kings, Trump does no such thing — instead, he rejects the traditions of the Founding Fathers in favor an aesthetic that connotes absolute rule. If history is a lesson, Trump shouldn’t get too comfortable with his royal trappings. After the French Revolution, overwrought styles such as rococo went out of fashion, as the country’s monarchs quite literally lost their heads at the hands of the peasantry. And the Hall of Mirrors? It’s now a tourist attraction.

    Delusional demented asshole.

    https://en.chateauversailles.fr/discover/estate/palace/hall-mirrors?itid=lk_inline_enhanced-template#the-hall-of-mirrors

    Putz J D Vance is similar – 40 car motorcade messing up traffic in Rome? Why?

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  2. Tony W says:

    Trump’s conduct at the Pope’s funeral is getting a lot of press – blue suit, posting stuff from his phone, falling asleep, etc.

    In my view, this is the least embarrassing conduct we have seen out of him yet. At least while he is asleep, he shuts up for a few minutes. And Melania probably thought it was nice having him sleep next to her for a change.

    I remain astounded that the frikken United States of America couldn’t produce a better man that this dipshit for our president.

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  3. Mikey says:

    @charontwo:

    Site would not let me do this as a gift article.

    I haven’t used all my gift links up yet, this should work:

    https://wapo.st/3GE4oma

    One really has to see the pictures to get the full impact of how gaudy and gauche it is.

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  4. Scott says:

    On Up First from NPR, a 31 minute podcast: A Whistleblower Takes on DOGE

    NPR’s cybersecurity correspondent Jenna McLaughlin recently broke a story about a whistleblower inside the federal government who says DOGE representatives appear to have taken sensitive data, then covered their tracks. Daniel Berulis works for the National Labor Relations Board and he has shared evidence that DOGE engineers disabled security protocols, exported reams of sensitive data and used a “hacker’s toolkit” to hide their activities. And he thinks his agency is not alone. Today on The Sunday Story, what this possible breach could mean for the private data of millions of Americans.

    This is more than concerning. This is real evidence of potential crimes. And it is not anonymous allegations but someone coming forward, identifying himself, and publicly witnessing.

    BTW, Trump and MAGA goons are going after NPR and PBS. It would be nice if they had a sugar daddy/mommy in the wings like Joan Kroc.

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  5. Scott says:

    Greenland PM visits Denmark as Trump threats loom

    Jens-Frederik Nielsen leads Greenland’s new coalition government, after his centre-right Democrats party won a legislative election in March. It will be his first visit to Denmark since taking office.

    It also follows a visit to the Arctic territory by Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen in early April, when she told the United States “you cannot annex another country”.

    Trump keeps saying he’s serious but who knows?

    My question is whether Greenland, Denmark, and Canada come to some arrangement. That actually seems to be more natural given the geography and interests.

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  6. charontwo says:

    @Scott:

    There is some little island between Greenland and Canada that Canada and Denmark each own half of, so Canada technically actually has a land border with the EU.

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  7. charontwo says:

    @Mikey:

    From yesterday’s forum, Trump pictures now hanging in the White House:

    Link

    Link

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  8. CSK says:

    @charontwo:

    The one with the flag superimposed on his face makes him look as if he’s behind bars–as he should be.

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  9. al Ameda says:

    From the within the lead article

    But Trump is the only one who seems intent on transforming it into one of those rococo period rooms at the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Where previous leaders have featured a small selection of paintings, Trump has stuffed the room with a salon-style hang of canvases that includes an array of U.S. presidents, along with Benjamin Franklin. In between, he has added military flags and ornate, baroque-style mirrors in gilded frames. Modern bronze busts of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and Winston Churchill sit incongruously on console tables supported by gilded eagles. On the central coffee table rests a stack of bright golden coasters. With each passing news conference, the Oval Office increasingly resembles the highly ornamented Hall of Mirrors at the Palace of Versailles — a space that will make you dizzy with decoration

    I saw pictures of his interior decoration project and I started laughing, and I couldn’t stop. What came to mind was, this … this … is Dollar Store Tony Montana Scarface Chic.

    Last time around he let Melania wreck the Rose Garden, this time around Trump has time on his hands and he wasn’t going to delegate a White House makeover to Lauren Boebert or Lara Loomer, so here we are.

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  10. Bobert says:

    Trump’s economic team estimates that Madagascar’s tariff rates on US products is 97%. However, in a stroke of largess, Trump is enacting a reciprocal tariff of 47%.

    (By now, it’s well recognized that Trump’s estimated rate of 97% was based on trade imbalance, not on tariff rates, so we need not get into a discussion of Trump’s misrepresenting Madagascar’s estimated tariff rates)

    So it would appear that the US buys more “stuff” from Madagascar then Madagascar buys from the US.

    So the problem for Madagascar is what to propose to solve that trade imbalance, considering that Madagascar has one-tenth the consumer base of the US and that the average income of the Madagascar consumer is but 400 US dollars per year.

    What then does Madagascar have to offer the US in negotiations?

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  11. JKB says:

    Trump seems to be shaking the box of universities

    Yale has approximately one administrator for every undergraduate student (see also here and here). Years of simmering tension about the growth of administration relative to faculty has now been brought forward. President Trump has threatened to cut funding to Yale, the Yale administration has threatened to stop hiring faculty and raises, some faculty are now threatening to revolt.

  12. Jay L Gischer says:

    @charontwo: You know, I think the one with the flag painted on his face is kinda good. I can’t view that but as an ironic take on his performative patriotism. Did it hit anybody else that way? (I’m sure it doesn’t strike Trump himself that way)

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  13. Jay L Gischer says:

    @JKB: Let’s assume that the administrative bloat serves no purpose for Yale. Why is it the governments/president’s job to address this? Isn’t that up to the Yale Board of Trustees? I mean, it’s not like I notice them falling behind.

    I know many graduates of the Ivy League personally. For the very greater part, I like them.

    AND, I kind of despise the stranglehold they have over some institutions and enterprises. Which is to say, they have social networks that elevate people far over the others that probably had equally good grades and test scores, but did not make it through the admissions process.

    Ok, I hate that. However, I don’t think it’s the government’s job to fix it. AND, I don’t think what Trump is doing is likely to fix it.

    Capping (administrative) overhead specifically on research grants might have some impact, but it’s a very blunt instrument, and liable to fail. However, it’s hard to place good faith in what Trump is doing since as we all know, he does all kinds of things on pretexts, and he’s currently engaged in trying to bully Columbia and Harvard into giving the government control of hiring and firing of faculty members and effectively, curriculum.

    So in some other context, I might be guardedly approving of the government placing a cap on administrative overhead. Doing it on existing grants as a surprise move from a government that displays bad faith every day, not so much.

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  14. charontwo says:

    Do not be put off by the NSFW message, this one is safe:

    https://www.oglaf.com/macrame/

    (Sort of on topic to the “Gulf” thread).

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  15. Mr. Prosser says:

    @Jay L Gischer: @charontwo: The face with the superimposed flag immediately struck me as a Marvel Universe/DC Universe villain.
    I would like to see R. Crumb do his portrait.

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  16. becca says:

    @Mr. Prosser: Trump as Mr Natural. Or Freewheelin’ Franklin or Fat Freddie.

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  17. DAllenABQ says:

    @becca: Wow, a reference to the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers, and Fat Freddie’s cat. Wish I had kept those comic books.

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  18. Eusebio says:

    @JKB: “Yale has approximately one administrator for every undergraduate student”
    And Yale has more graduate and professional students than undergraduate students, and Yale operates one of largest teaching hospitals in the country, and more context needed…

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  19. Gustopher says:

    Do you have a deep need for Judi Dench or John Cena to talk dirty to you about having sex with minors? Well, Facebook has something for you!

    https://bsky.app/profile/jeffhorwitz.bsky.social/post/3lnr76xwats2a

    Are you a child who is disappointed that you will not be able to access such content without hitting age restrictions? Don’t worry, Facebook’s AI is happy to escalate to sexy chat with you (in the voice of Judi Dench, if that is your thing).

    I continue to believe that there is nothing that is not improved by Judi Dench. This is just her licensed and recreated voice, so not really her. And, honestly, I’m not sure if it doesn’t make this marginally better.

    This is why you don’t train your AI on whatever crap you find on the internet.

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  20. wr says:

    @Eusebio: “and more context needed…”

    Yale wouldn’t let JKB in. Enough context?

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  21. Mr. Prosser says:

    @becca: Mr. Natural is way to cool to be warped into an image of Drumf, but even though Fat Freddie isn’t by Crumb I can see him morphed into the hair boy.

  22. Beth says:

    @Gustopher:

    Goddess, now I want Dame Judi Dench to yell at me. “Get up you depressed sack of shit!”

    Yes Dame Judi Dench.

    “Take a shower, you haven’t in 3 days and you smell like you’re rotting.”

    Yes Dame Judi Dench.

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  23. Eusebio says:

    @Bobert: “the average income of the Madagascar consumer is but 400 US dollars per year.”
    Well, that explains it. With a per capita income of just 1/100th that of the US, I wouldn’t expect them to buy much of our stuff.
    Too bad some of us couldn’t be satisfied with having the world’s reserve currency, high labor productivity businesses, and low unemployment.

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  24. Gustopher says:

    @Beth: unpaywalled version of the underlying article:

    https://archive.ph/2025.04.27-045358/https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/meta-ai-chatbots-sex-a25311bf

    It goes into details about how the system was designed to do this, at the insistence of Zuckerberg, despite warnings by various employees.

    Representatives for Cena and Dench didn’t respond to requests for comment.

    I wonder if they have Helen Mirren?

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  25. EddieInCA says:

    @Beth:

    True Dame Judy Dench story…

    I was doing a TV series in London in 1995. We attempted to cast Dame Judy Dench in a role. We contacted her agent, and made the offer. Two hours later, I get a phone call from someone claiming to be Dame Judy Dench, asking if we had time for her to come visit the studio the following day at 10am. She promised to only take up 10 minutes of our time. Of course, we said yes, very intrigued.

    Next day, she shows up at Ealing Studios, promptly at 10am. She brings with her a tin of biscuits (cookies, in American verbiage) to give to us as a gift. She apologizes for not being able to do the episode which we offered, but she wanted to come by personally to say thank you and to give us an explanation. She explained to us that she really wanted to do the episode, but she simply did not have the time. Here’s why….

    Monday-Thursday, she was shooting her sitcom “As Time Goes By”, from which Tuesday-Thursday, she had to be finished by 4:30pm because Tuesday-Friday, she was doing a play on the West End, “A Little Night Music”. Additionally, on the weekends, she was shooting her scenes for “Goldeneye”, the James Bond film. So, simultaneously, she was doing a sitcom, a feature, and a play on the West End.

    Yet, she made time to come bring us cookies to apologize for not being able to do our little show.

    Class. That lady is pure class.

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  26. Stormy Dragon says:

    @Beth:

    What ever helps, I suppose, but the screaming at you to get out of bed part should clearly go to BRIAN BLESSED!!

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  27. CSK says:

    @Jay L Gischer:

    This is a MAGA person’s idea of great portraiture. Right up there with Rembrandt, Holbein, etc.

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  28. dazedandconfused says:

    @Mr. Prosser:
    Clearly in the area of the old Batman campy TV series, which I could imagine coming up with a hilarious super-villain called “Brain Damage”, an evil-doer with the power to to stupefy with statements so incredibly dumb they numb the mind of anyone who hears them.

    Will Batman’s utility belt be stocked with ear-plugs? Will he be able to deploy them in time? Will Robin recover from being told he’s Batman’s Engelbert Humperdinck? Tune in next week, same Bat time, same Bat channel!

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  29. becca says:

    Are Ron and Casey getting put on ice in favor of Byron?
    https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/27/politics/ron-casey-desantis-florida-scandal/

    Ron blames”leftist” republicans for this “narrative”. That is really pathetic.

  30. becca says:

    @Mr. Prosser: I have a Motor City Comic with both Shelton’s FFFbros and R Crumb’s Mr Natural and Tondalayo Breckenridge. They are forever enmeshed in my mind.

  31. al Ameda says:

    @Beth:

    Goddess, now I want Dame Judi Dench to yell at me. “Get up you depressed sack of shit!”
    Yes Dame Judi Dench.

    I’m not sure what this says about me, but … you made my day.
    Almost gagged up my grapefruit juice laughing. Again, thank you.

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  32. Lucysfootball says:

    At least they are upfront about the grift. It is a bargain at a half a million, Trump has already given insider info that was probably worth billions:
    Donald Trump Jr. , along with megadonor Omeed Malik and a group of investors, are set to launch an exclusive club that requires an invitation and a hefty membership fee exceeding half a million.
    The club will be situated in Georgetown and aims to become the most luxurious private club Washington has ever seen, catering to business and tech moguls seeking to foster relationships with the Trump administration.
    The stringent referral requirements and steep pricing are designed to ensure that top executives can interact with Trump advisers and cabinet members away from the scrutiny of the press and aspiring insiders. Given that Trump’s cabinet is the wealthiest in history, the price tag won’t pose a problem.
    Hoping for a very localized lightning strike on opening night. Maybe the place can be incinerated with all the staff getting away safely with no injuries. As for the members…

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  33. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @charontwo: Still, Canada seems to be approaching the question with some sort of sense of humor.
    Canadian Voters Reveal Which Candidate They Believe Could Defeat Trump in a Fight

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  34. Kathy says:

    Lufthansa is going to have to play pool with 787s to avoid tariffs.

    Well, that’s good for them since they have an airline bases in Switzerland, which is not part of the EU. I wonder what all the other European airlines.

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  35. Jax says:

    Man, Marco Rubio looks like absolute shit these days. It’s like all this carrying water for Trump’s lies are affecting his health and looks.

    I hope he barely sleeps at night. May it last until his next book deal…..after he gets fired, of course. They never come clean until there’s money to be made.

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  36. Kathy says:

    I got my tax return filed.

    TL;DR the filing itself took under ten minutes. The problem was I’d let my electronic signature expire, and renewing it in the last month of tax filing season is not quick. I also failed to understand a default setting, then the accountant told me to start over and change one thing. That done, it took under ten minutes.

    BTW, I could have filed without the e signature, but I couldn’t get the tax refund deposited to my account without it, only applied to next year’s taxes.

    This system is available to all tax payers. Of course, some have far more complex financial situations and require to enter info the government may have missed. But I dare say for most working people on a payroll, their filing experience is a lot like mine.

    Corporate and business taxes are a whole different matter.

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  37. Eusebio says:

    Saquon Barkley spent the day golfing and hanging out with trump. I’ve never been concerned with how the Eagles star running back spends his free time, but WTF. Either oblivious to, or totally cool with undermining the press, judiciary, and due process, as well as damage to worldwide democracy and trade. I’m able to change my football watching/following habits.