The Execution Will Be Televised

The Fort Hood terrorist is scheduled to go before a firing squad.

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AP (“Pentagon says the firing squad execution of Fort Hood shooter Nidal Malik Hasan will be livestreamed“):

The firing squad execution of Fort Hood shooter Nidal Malik Hasan will be livestreamed, the Pentagon said Thursday, a stunning revelation about plans for the first military execution in more than 65 years after Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth had described it as being “public.”

The Army announced this week that the execution would take place at Fort Hood on Dec. 3 after Hasan was convicted of killing 13 people and injuring 32 others in a shooting at the military base in 2009.

Hegseth, speaking to the conservative TV outlet Real America’s Voice on Wednesday, said, “We’ll make sure that people are able to watch it, that it’s public.” Officials in the Pentagon clarified Thursday that the execution would be livestreamed and that more details would follow.

While I’ve grown increasingly skeptical about capital punishment over the years, Hasan would have been a clear case where it seems warranted. His crime was especially heinous, and there’s zero doubt about his guilt. The passage of almost two decades, though, makes justice considerably less than swift.

And turning the execution into a public spectacle makes me queasy. It seems like something from a bygone era, if not a Third World country.

It is unlikely to happen, at least on the announced timeline:

Hasan could choose to resist execution and file a habeas petition — a legal request to review the legality of a detention — in civilian court, which could significantly delay the execution, experts said.

“It frankly might outlast the current administration, and who knows if the next one will have the same penchant for executions,” said Eugene R. Fidell, a visiting lecturer at Yale Law School specializing in military law.

I’m a bit surprised to see so many lauding the live stream:

Deborah Denno, a death penalty expert and law professor at Fordham University, said livestreaming an execution could make the process “much more transparent” and inform the public about all that capital punishment entails. Those are benefits that she said would be useful at a time when Pike’s botched execution has raised fresh questions about the manner by which criminal defendants are put to death for their crimes.

“I think it could possibly be a good idea because it would be transparent and the public would be fully aware that it’s happening,” she said.

When many states have had difficulty carrying out lethal injections due to difficulty accessing drugs or finding medical professionals willing to participate in executions, firing squads are coming to be seen as a less inhumane alternative, said Brenner Fissell, a professor at Villanova Law and vice president of the National Institute of Military Justice.

“Firing squads can be a quicker, cleaner, more precise way to execute a prisoner,” he said. “I don’t think that’s what’s motivating this. There’s a perceived masculinity and military-ness to firing squads that is part of the aura Hegseth is trying to emphasize — the ‘lethality culture.’”

Elisabeth Semel, co-director of the Death Penalty Clinic at UC Berkeley Law, said Hegseth’s announcement raises a host of legal and public policy questions, including concerns for the dignity of the defendant, who will be eligible to view the execution and what the Trump administration has in mind in opting for an unusual spectacle.

Though there has been long-running discussion about the idea of televising an execution, “I don’t recall a situation in which it was instigated by the government. I think that also raises serious questions about what is the motivation of the government,” she said.

“This is a president who’s about spectacle and that’s, I think, precisely the message that he intends to deliver,” Semel said, adding that she was skeptical that the administration had given a second thought to the legal and social questions being presented by the decision.

Of that, I’m reasonably certain.

MTN’s Brett Meiselas takes the skepticism a bit far (“Hegseth Wants Americans to Watch Executions Like Those in Iran and North Korea“):

The prospect of a public execution would place the United States in deeply troubling international company.

Human rights organizations, including Amnesty International, have documented public executions in Iran, where authorities have carried out hangings before spectators, and Afghanistan, where the Taliban has conducted executions in public. Reports have also described public executions in North Korea, while Saudi Arabia has a history of public beheadings, although its practices have changed in recent years.

The United States has not established that Hasan’s execution will be open to the general public or broadcast. But Hegseth’s promise that Americans will be able to watch raises a question that goes well beyond the death penalty itself: whether the Trump regime intends to turn an execution into a public spectacle.

We’re in increasingly poor company in executing people, period. Belarus is the only European country that still applies the death penalty, with most of the rest being autocratic regimes in the developing world.

Still, Hasan murdered multiple people and was convicted after significant due process. Prisoners in Iran and North Korea do not enjoy that luxury.

27 responses to “The Execution Will Be Televised”

  1. As predicted:

    https://outsidethebeltway.com/tuesdays-forum-309/

    What we need to do is ask ourselves why our country seems to be increasingly run by sociopaths

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    1. I think we already know the answer to that. In the words of the old Pogo comic, “We have met the enemy and he is us”.

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  2. Adam Serwer once again:

    The Cruelty Is the Point

    President Trump and his supporters find community by rejoicing in the suffering of those they hate and fear.

    Televising or livestreaming an execution has nothing to do with righting the balance. It’s gory entertainment for sick people.

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  3. The pro-life protect-the-kids party wants to livestream a shooting death for anyone to see. Hmm.

    And, no, Prof. Fissell, unfortunately firing quads are not necessarily cleaner or more precise:

    A South Carolina man executed last month by firing squad may have suffered for an extended period of time before dying because shooters largely missed his heart, an autopsy commissioned by the state shows.

    Mikal Mahdi died on April 11 after being shot by a three-person firing squad. But an autopsy revealed two wounds on his chest, not three. None of the bullets hit his heart directly, as is supposed to happen during the execution. Instead, the wounds caused damage to his liver and other internal organs, and allowed his heart to keep beating. Pathologists say the injuries likely caused the prisoner pain and suffering while he was still conscious.

    There’s seems to be no method fitting all the criteria wanted by we who support the death penalty (or at least who do not oppose it): a swift, reliable, relatively painless and bloodless method that is also neither “cruel or unusual” + lacks the grotesque butchery and barbarism associated with the guillotine or chopping block.

    I’m currently binging Alfred Hitchcock Presents and The Alfred Hitchcock Hour. Fantastic show, but I’m endlessly amused by its uncomplicated homicides: fast-acting poisons, one blow to the head, a knife to the back = instant death.

    Hitchcock had been criticized for this before, and responded in Hitchcock fashion with an uncomfortably long strangulation scene in Rope (1948), and later the 24 stab shower scene in Psycho (1960). In real life, it’s usually pretty difficult and/or pretty messy to kill a person.

    My humanism and Christianity is not yet evolved enough to prompt strident opposition to capital punishment. But we should stop kidding ourselves on its gruesomeness. Ending a human life is nasty business, and if we don’t like that, it’s another reason the death penalty should be gotten rid of. (The certainty we’ve executed innocents within our lifetimes is the #1 argument for abolition.)

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    1. My humanism and Christianity is not yet evolved enough to prompt strident opposition to capital punishment.

      How about plain self-interest?

      Capital punishment is not just about what happens to the condemned. It’s also about what happens to the society that permits it.

      We pay a lasting price for the violence that we do upon others.

      Think, for instance, of the GIs who returned home from war and became Hell’s Angels.

      Or of the German ex-WW1 soldiers who joined a Freikorps and murdered communists in Berlin, non-Germans in what would soon become Latvia, and (quite a bit later) Jews in Poland and Belarus.

      Or think of Tolkien (who served in the trenches) whose hero, Frodo, suffered a wound that would never properly heal. Frodo eventually found peace in Valinor – not something that is generally open to people who fight in wars or commit other forms of violence (justified or not).

      Then there is George Lucas’s tale about the seductive power of the Dark Side (and the price you need to pay). Or the Japanese saying that whoever sets out on a journey of revenge better dig two graves.

      These cultural expressions are not some random hippie shit, but reflect the truth that doing violence breeds trauma. And trauma gets passed on.

      The thing with capital punishment is that it is unnecessary (life in prison exists) and therefore cruel.

      And such cruelty never remains contained.

      I don’t want my government to be cruel at least in part because some of that cruelty might get directed at me at some point.

      That doesn’t mean that I never want my government to do violence. But not needlessly so if at all possible.

      And with capital punishment this is possible.

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  4. Michael Reynolds Avatar
    Michael Reynolds

    I wonder if they’ll release the names of the shooters. If I were an officer, and these men were volunteers, I wouldn’t want any of them in my unit. Or in any later civilian job.

  5. Charley in Cleveland Avatar
    Charley in Cleveland

    I understand that due process can take time, but Hasan was convicted in 2013, and his conviction wasn’t finally affirmed until 2024. Eleven years? That was within the military justice system (court martial then appeals). And then SCOTUS refused a review in 2025. So the sentence for a crime committed in 2009 will be carried out in 2026. Is justice delayed justice denied? There is no good reason for the process to take almost 20 years…especially in a case like this in which Hasan, in effect, pleaded guilty.* Assuming the purpose of the death penalty is to serve justice and give closure to the victims, and serve as a deterrent, is that achieved 20 years later? Congress and state legislatures should act to either abolish the death penalty or streamline the capital case time line, setting time limits for appeals and adding more judges if need be. Maybe this would get bipartisan support. As to Hegseth’s blood lust and Trump’s desire for spectacle…77 million MAGA voters need to take a look in the mirror.

    *Hasan defended himself at his court martial, and admitted pulling the trigger.

    1. Just look at the mess at Guantanamo Bay. 25 years after 9/11, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and five others have not yet been brought to trial. Trial expected to start June 5, 2028.

      You can thank the CIA for this mess.

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  6. This is grotesque.

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  7. Pretty f’ing gross.
    But we’ve all watched ICE execute innocents on our streets.
    So it tracks.

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  8. Hegseth wanting to televise this is of a piece with W. Bush and Cheney getting off on torturing people.

    A more extreme version of justice delayed is Christa Pike. Is the 50 year old Pike on whom they botched an execution even the same person as the 18 year old who committed the crime?

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  9. They want to televise it, and then it’s going to be everywhere on the internet as a right-wing meme against anyone who is Muslim.

    The latter is just as important for these people: MAGA is weak and has basically been rejected by anyone who isn’t subhuman. They want revenge for this rejection, because they are the victims.

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    1. Bill Kristol summed it up very well this morning, “It’s about desensitizing the public. It’s about normalizing cruelty. It’s about turning citizens into voyeurs—in this case, into voyeurs of a snuff film.”

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  10. I’m opposed to state sponsored killing of people. It degrades our national soul. We are trying to build a better world, and this barbarism out of the past doesn’t help.
    I expect that Hegseth will try to have this done publicly, maybe at halftime during the super bowl.

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  11. Back when John Paul II was the pope, there was a lot of discussion in Catholic circles about the “culture of death,” focused largely on abortion and consumerism. That term is so much more applicable to the current administration in general and the Department of WAR specifically, with its focus on war fighting and lethality. This is just another piece of testimony to that culture.

    1. The US Conference of Catholic Bishops has called this proposal exactly that in its statement:

      https://www.usccb.org/news/2026/usccb-president-condemns-plans-livestream-fort-hood-shooters-execution-barbaric-promotion

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  12. Question for the legal eagles on this blog–I was under the impression that public executions are illegal in all US states. Is this somehow not applicable because it’s a federal case?

    Also–it might just be wishful thinking, but if this does come to pass, I wonder if it may end up having the opposite effect on people than what the administration intends (whatever that goal is).

    1. No, because most of the people who watch it will be ghouls who’ll thrill to the sight of a televised execution.

  13. I know many have a knee jerk reaction to Andrew Sullivan but sometimes he’s right:

    And so it’s fitting in this context, is it not, that the barbarians claiming to be conservatives who run this country are now planning to hold a live-streamed public execution of a paraplegic old man by firing squad — a practice the church itself regards as a grotesque betrayal of human dignity. Killing a disabled Muslim is, in fact, a great illustration of the core principle of the Trump era. Not the mere assertion of power: the convicted prisoner is utterly under state control and will face death anyway. But the brandishing of power for its own sake, the enforcement of not just punishment but humiliation, a public celebration of cruelty and revenge. With a tinge of religious bigotry thrown in.

    https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/the-floundering-anglo-american-right

  14. I think that while people might still support, or be neutral about the abstract notion of a death penalty, they would rather ignore the practical reality of executions as we carry them out.

    There is so much posturing using imagery associated with death. For instance, a man I vaguely know, and know his brothers and cousins well, posted on FB, “All trans people should die”.

    At least he didn’t call them “trannys”. He was posturing. I know enough about him to know he was posturing. He was hyperbolizing. This is very common. You don’t have to look very far at all to find people wishing for, or anticipating the death of a politial enemy, or so on.

    AND, everthing I know says that most people, including some who are strongly right wing, finds the actual witnessing of someone being killed to be quite momentous and sobering, and nothing to really celebrate, per se. I am friends of friends of several law enforcement guys via my martial arts hobby. That is what they say.

    Of course, this is only for a much greater part. Something like 5 percent of the population are sociopaths and don’t feel this. Maybe another 5 or 10 percent wish they didn’t feel anything, and they despise the fact that they do. So they pretend.

    I do not think this will go well for Trump or for the death-penalty lobby either. Because of this. You might think you’ve seen the same thing hundreds of times on TV, but it isn’t the same. Not to get all mystic foo-foo, but a person manifesting killing intent is a real thing, and it is deeply unsettling.

  15. When the execution date was announce, it did occur to me that this admin and in particular Hegseth, would opt for it to be in public. So yesterday’s announcement was disgusting, but not a surprise.

  16. It may all come down to ratings.

    Is that still even a thing?

  17. dazedandconfused Avatar
    dazedandconfused

    The Trump administration in a nutshell: “Well, so much for American exceptionalism. Nice while it lasted.”

    On top of that his was a crime likely committed in the seeking of martyrdom, making it a public spectacle serves that agenda, not counter it.

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    1. It took me too long to figure out that, to the Right, “American exceptionalism” just means “The rules don’t apply to us.”

  18. Hegseth argues that a public execution will have a deterrent effect. It’s a remarkably stupid thing to say even by his standards. From Saints Peter and Paul through Joan of Arc to Nathan Hale, publicly-executed political prisoners have become martyrs who inspired future generations of followers. It’s hard to imagine anything that could be a more potent tool for terrorist groups like ISIS than video of the Great Satan shooting a fellow Islamist.

    Obama had the right idea with Bin Laden: dump the body at sea. If they must execute Hasan, do it quietly one morning with no prior notice and bury him in an unmarked grave.

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  19. Sorry JJ, but I find your comments insufficiently critical. One needs to call this for what it is, a sadistic barbaric spectacle embarrassing for the nation. I think you are right though, about whether the execution will take place and I have a feeling if it does it will not be live streamed, the whole thing is too repugnant.