Vance: We Used to Have “Dumb Presidents”

Well, I feel better now.

Source: The White House

I scrolled past this and thought it was a paraphrase. Ends up: nope! This searing, insightful commentary about “dumb presidents” is a direct quote.

Look, if there end up being no real consequences for this strike, and it sets back the nuclear program siginificantly, all well and good, I suppose. I have sincere doubts about both notions. But we shall see.

In regards to the clip, the notion that the current president is smarter than his predecessors is, shall we say, highly questionable, and I have to wonder what step Vance is describing to ensure the end of the Iranian nucelar program. That doesn’t make this seem one and done.

FILED UNDER: Middle East, The Presidency, US Politics, World Politics,
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Comments

  1. CSK says:

    Given that Trump himself was one of Trump’s predecessors, is Vance including his boss in the tally of dummies?

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  2. PT says:

    And he said it with a straight face…. no irony. Sounds good, JD. Searingly insightful indeed.

    If there are no real consequences it will be by accident. Let’s hope, though. I have to live on this planet too.

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  3. Gavin says:

    To quote Ken White, this is indeed the Leeroy Jenkins administration.

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  4. Rob1 says:

    Apparently, as evidenced by JDVance, we have no shortage of dumb Vice-Presidents.

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  5. Rob1 says:

    @CSK: This is the absurdist Administration, populated by absurdist personalities like JD Vance, Trump, Miller, Kennedy, et.al., representing an absurdist MAGA electorate, in pursuit of absurdist goals, while absurdly proclaiming in absurdly loud voices that “they aren’t the dumb ones.”

    Which only underscores their hypocrisy and self indulgent ignorance. America is in a bad spot.

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  6. becca says:

    Vance reminds me of Harry Ellis, the obnoxious kiss up kick down character who meets a sticky end at the hands of Hans Gruber in the first Die Hard movie.

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  7. al Ameda says:

    Vance: I empathize with Americans who are exhausted after 25 years of foreign entanglements in the Middle East. I understand the concern, but the difference is that back then we had dumb presidents

    Vance … just maybe Yale Law School isn’t as good as people think it is.

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  8. CSK says:

    @al Ameda:

    Well, after 4 years at undergraduate school, and some exposure to the socially elite of Yale, Vance claims he still had to call his girlfriend to find out which fork to use at dinner, so perhaps he was an admissions error.

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  9. Sleeping Dog says:

    @CSK:

    No, he’s a DEI acceptance. You know the part where admissions tries to build a diverse incoming class by looking at where the applicant grew up and household income. Yale, likely hadn’t had an admission from the county where JD grew up in a while, so voilà, he’s in.

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  10. Daryl says:

    Will Baron Trump be enlisting?

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  11. CSK says:

    @Sleeping Dog:

    Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing. Vance got into Yale because he was a hillbilly.

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  12. CSK says:

    @Daryl:

    His mommy will lock him in a Trump Tower closet and keep him there before that happens.

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  13. gVOR10 says:

    Jeez. And I thought Mike “Dense” wasn’t very bright.

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  14. Gustopher says:

    Whatever Vance’s hobby is, we have made it too safe.

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  15. CSK says:

    @Gustopher:

    Having sexual intercourse with sofas?

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  16. Rob1 says:

    @CSK: JDVance was already on the Right’s radar. It’s not posted on Wiki, but I read somewhere he had interned or been mentored by an Ohio Republican politician while an undergrad in Poli sci at OSU (later switching to sci-fi after hooking up with Peter Thiel /s). He had the “right look” for the Right. Marine, up from poverty, conservative, and otherwise “empty vessel.” Looks like Yale didn’t have significant input.

    Mentored at Yale by Prof. Amy Chua who clerked with Brett Cavanaugh. Chua recommended a “self directed study” wherein he fleshed out Hillbilly Elegy and subsequently was nudged into the Right’s billionaire reactionary funnel directly to Thiel.

    I suspect the our institutions of higher learning (and military) are salted with the Right’s talent scouts, looking for impressionable stand-ins.

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  17. CSK says:

    @Rob1:

    It’s interesting, though, that Vance was so down on Trump initially, calling him, among other things, an idiot and an asshole.

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  18. Gustopher says:

    @CSK: Microfiber was a mistake.

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  19. Rob1 says:

    @CSK:

    Opportunity knocked.

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  20. JohnSF says:

    Dear me.
    As someone once said:
    “Power corrupts. But lack of power corrupts absolutely.”

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  21. Jay L Gischer says:

    I think Vance is deliberately trolling, trying to provoke responses that will look like “they hate America, and want Iran to have nukes”.

    Whatever else he is, he isn’t stupid.

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  22. JohnSF says:

    @Jay L Gischer:
    Indeed.
    He’s a lot worse than that.
    But also rather liable to calculate on a totally US-centric, and then MAGA-centric, basis.
    See his recent comments on European politics, which seriously offended and alarmed traditionally pro-US groups, such as the Poles, the German Christian Democrats, and some Brits.

    Vance seems to share a general “US Right” assumption that Europe must be a US ally due to some law of nature. And therefore can be compelled to accept whatever the current US adminsitrtion may desire.

    This is, imho, a mistake, and a rather basic one.
    Alliances generally require consideration of the other parties imperatives.
    Not just “you must do this because we KONG!”

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