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The headline of the day- Pilot killed in North Carolina crash was trying to avoid hitting turtle on runway
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We now know why a 787 airliner couldn’t land at Naples Airport-
A European airport refused to allow a Boeing 787 carrying over 200 people at the end of an eight-hour flight for a very unusual reason. The American Airlines flight from Philadelphia to Naples was forced to land in Rome on June 3.
But this happened for one unexpected reason – it was two metres (6.5ft) too long, exceeding Naples airport’s limits. The plane was a Boeing 787-9, rather than the 787-8, which usually makes the journey. The 787-9 is six metres (19.6ft) longer than the other plane, 63 metres (206ft), and exceeds Naples’ limits The plane was told as it approached the airport that it couldn’t land and was diverted 124 miles away.
Dear Wife and I will be starting our Italian trip by flying into Naples on September 23. Mt. Vesuvius here we come.
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The Florida headline of the day- DeSantis signs bill banning weather modification in Florida
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@CSK:
Somebody better tell Trump: No Sharpies!
Somebody better tell Chief Wild Eagle. No rain or snow dances! Because of events in the Middle East, war dances are allowed.
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@Bill Jempty:..weather…
Since the link you provide pulls up an item behind a pay wall I’m not clear about the legislation that Gov. DeSantis has signed. For some reason I can see the comments. They don’t help much. All that I can assume is that carrying a bumbershoot and using windshield wipers when driving in the rain will get you a fine and boarding up shops and homes before a hurricane is mandatory jail time.
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This may clarify the issue:
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@Mister Bluster: Its mostly centered around the idea that chemtrails are being used for nefarious purposes. Which is related also to the idea that climate change is not real so they arent going to let anyone put stuff in the sky.
Steve
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For some reason, the paywall let me view comments. Boy howdy! My condolences to the sane residents of Fla. Contrails and chemtrails and flouride oh me oh my.
@CSK:
Thanks for the link. IMO, this legislation just proves the adage of why you don’t watch sausage being made
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@CSK:..Sunshine State!..
Thanks for the link.
“The purpose of this bill is to separate fact from fiction,” Garcia said
Next the Florida Legislature will be investigating Astrology and Karma and Flat Earthians.
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@CSK: This is weird, yes, I get what the bill is addressing; no, knowing clears up nothing. The explanation is just as whack as the original headline. I guess that’s why the place is named FloriDUH.
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We may lose the house we thought we had in Cascais, so we were out doing street-side inspections of a couple other places and here’s a freedom you have in Portugal that you don’t in the US: we could peer in through gates and fences with zero chance of being shot. It’s one of the nice things about Europe, the relative freedom from fear of other people.
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Sorry to hear about the possible house loss. Have you and K. seen anything else promising?
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Take a minute and read the gift link…
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/21/us/white-supremacist-university-of-florida-paper.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Qk8.gDQK.RB5UiSCYQG4p&smid=url-share
LGM has more on this mother of just about all hypocrisies. -
@Michael Reynolds:
MAGA lax gun freedom = loss of freedom to live civilly. -
Russian officers massively avoiding front, hiding in rear – Defense Intelligence
Thus, according to the Defense Intelligence, more than 45% of officers of the armed forces of the aggressor country of the russian federation, who are part of the reserve units of the Southern Military District of the russian armed forces, do not have any legal grounds for serving in the rear.
“The documents signed by the Chief of Staff of the Southern Military District, Lieutenant General Mikhail Zusko, revealed the facts of the groundless transfer of more than 900 officers to rear units. Of these, at least 200 were appointed despite the already full staffing of the units,” the Defense Intelligence noted. [..]
“The mass escape from the front line, framed as a formal transfer to the rear, indicates demoralization and crisis in the russian command structure. Realizing the scale of losses and the inevitability of their own death, officers of the aggressor state are trying at all costs to avoid participating in hostilities,” the Ministry of Defense’s Defense Intelligence stressed.
Trump and Putin, brothers in bluster and b.s.
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Hey hey hey, I’m Old Dominion Flat Earther. Nothing like those Apostolic or New Restoration Flat Earthers!
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@becca: Well, from an originalist standpoint, he does have a compelling argument. If one adds a Marxist standpoint, one could argue that the Constitution only applies to propertied whites. Essay contests of all sorts frequently bias toward rewarding the most innovative idea expressed in the most colorful/forceful/compelling language/manner. That may be a reflection on the American ethos in some meaningful way.
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Wolves in sheep’s clothing’: how a neo-Nazi cell infiltrated a martial arts school in Tennessee
Across the US, the Active Club network uses combat sports to lure boys and young men into white nationalist circles
A neo-Nazi fight club that secretly infiltrated a Tennessee martial arts school where young children train has been banned from the facility, after an inquiry by the Guardian.
Last month, the South Central Tennessee Active Club published video footage on the messaging app Telegram showing its members participating in combat training at Shelbyville BJJ Academy, a Brazilian jiu-jitsu school in Shelbyville, Tennessee, that offers classes to students as young as three years old.
The group is part of the wider Active Club network, which consists of dozens of decentralized cells across the US and abroad that use combat sports to lure people into white nationalist and neo-Nazi causes.
While lesser known than other far-right groups like the Proud Boys, experts warn Active Clubs are acutely dangerous because they recruit boys and young men into violent white nationalist circles by using notions of fraternity as a gateway to extremism.[..]
Riztmann told the Guardian that the Active Club’s presence at the Tennessee academy is especially concerning because the movement’s architect, the white supremacist Robert Rundo “laid out the principle recruiting strategy, which includes reaching out to minors at schools”.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/21/tennessee-neo-nazi-martial-arts
Talk about “grooming” our youth. Our young males are vulnerable to this kind of manipulation, as ideals of civility have taken a backseat to “throwback” archetypes in our pop culture. Yes, pop culture, like advertising, absolutely does program our behavior.
Ann Coulter and Laura Ingram, forever pining for the return of “real manly men,” are surely pleased. But just consider what kind of fathers these nazi recruits will be, and how that will further estrange family life in America.
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@becca:
From the article, the law student’s paper…includes arguments similar to those recently adopted by the Trump administration, including a call to “reconsider” birthright citizenship, and an assertion that “aliens remain second-class persons under the Constitution.”
It also argues that courts should challenge the constitutionality of the 14th Amendment, which ensures birthright citizenship, due process and equal protection under the law, and the 15th Amendment, which protects the right to vote for nonwhite citizens.
So in a law school seminar on originalism, taught by a trump-nominated federal judge, Article V can be disregarded so that a paper deserving a poor grade can be elevated to award-winning status because… what, it’s provocative?
Article V
…Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution,…The article says, about the judge, “a member of the conservative Federalist Society, he has earned praise from both liberals and conservatives over the course of his career.” But maybe now he’s a kook.
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Daddy! (No, seriously, he’s secretly a Cube Earther. But points for the effort!)
ETA Grandma told me repeatedly the stories about how the family was drummed out of early “excursion tours” in Europe and Britain because the male relatives kept getting the sequence (loot, pillage, burn) wrong. Apparently dyslexia runs in the family. Could explain why we ended up in ND USA for the mild, temperate climate 800 years later .
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@CSK:
We have a number of targets but here in Portugal the sons of bitches take the whole work-life balance thing seriously. So on Thursday it was a holiday, which apparently also included Friday, and then the weekend, during which time no one even read our plaintive texts.We may find something out on Monday. Maybe.
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Well, the best to you both. If you don’t get your original choice, something will turn up for you, I’m sure.
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@CSK:
Sure…but who knows what nonsense a hyper-partisan special prosecutor is going to fabricate. Trump doesn’t want facts…he wants the slightest excuse to scream;“…see, exonerated!!!”
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Looking over my bookshelf today, I came across something decidedly unusual: an unread book I can’t even remember buying.
There are a few books I gave up on reading. I don’t recall when or where I got each one of my dozens of read books, but I do have a vague notion of at least when I got them (ie most Trek novels were obtained in the 90s).
Anyway, it’s a Star Wars novel, non canon, by Timothy Zahn called Choices of One. It has Mara Jade on the cover, so I expect I’ll read it when I’m done with the non-fiction fictional history of the Empire I’m reading now.
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@becca:
Institutional neutrality, she wrote in her email, “is not agreement or complicity with the ideas that any community member advances.”
“It’s just that — neutrality,” she added. “The government — in this case, our public university — stays out of picking sides, so that, through the marketplace of ideas, you can debate and arrive at truth for yourself and for the community.”
Neutrality and open debate in the marketplace of ideas—unless those ideas promote diversity, equity, or inclusion.
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@Michael Reynolds: Good luck!
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@Monala:
unless those ideas promote diversity, equity, or inclusion.
Such ideas are heresy and anathema, and shall be zealously erased from all public and private mention, dontcha know?
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Trump just announced on Truth Social:
“We have completed our very successful attack on the three Nuclear sites in Iran, including Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan. All planes are now outside of Iran air space. A full payload of BOMBS was dropped on the primary site, Fordow. All planes are safely on their way home. Congratulations to our great American Warriors. There is not another military in the World that could have done this. NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE! Thank you for your attention to this matter.”
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@Mikey:
Well, it’s done.
Not sure “it’s done.” Humans have a way of defying our expectations. Especially when confronted with that which they perceive as an existential threat. Things tend to spiral. Especially in that part of the world.
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@Connor: Does your wife ever any views on Only Fans? Ever? Ever?? Cuck
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@Connor:
Do you guys ever get anything right? Ever? Ever??
From time to time.
I might note that the possible initation of a major war is of considerable importance.
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@Rob1: I meant the deed is done. From here forward…well, I can only agree with you.
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@JKB:
What an ass.
The full damage assessent is going to take time, and daylight satellite observation
Typical Trump.
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@Connor:
Flawlessly and effectively.
That is down to the USAF, who are rather competent.
The larger question is, has the administration calculated the outcoming decision tree?
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@Jax: Too bad we’ve just entered another Middle East war.
Iran has been in a declared war against the United States since 1979. The US had only taken casualties till Trump took out Solemani. One would hope that Israel removed some more of the low lineal list numbers in the IRGC last night.
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