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Defining and Discussing Fascism Part III: Re-reading Eco

A continued effort to put our present politics into perspective.

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For the last several months, it has been clear that it is impossible to escape the fact that the Trump administration is properly categorized as fascist. This is not the only way it can be categorized, to be sure (other appropriate terms include kakistocracy and kleptocracy as well as more general terms like authoritarian, incompetent, and oligarchic). Still, I am reminded almost daily of this fact, and a recent visit to Nuremberg, Germany only further focused my mind on this topic. I felt the need for a deeper discussion of the topic, so I have returned to the topic of definitions. It is part of a number of attempts to organize my thoughts on this administration and its significance (at least one other should be showing up here shortly).

One of the handicaps of trying to be intellectually honest about these kinds of descriptions, alongside the occupational hazard of wishing to explain rather than assert, is that it takes time before one is fully confidence it hanging such a heavy label on anyone (although to be clear, I did so a while ago). I am fully confident in calling Trump a fascist and saying that there are ways in which Hitler comparisons are fully warranted. The ongoing deployment of ICE agents to send people to internment camps before they can be deported to often unsafe locations, whether in their country of origin or elsewhere, is a pretty straightforward example. His increasing assertions of appetite for territorial acquisitions (the Strait of Hormuz, Canada, Greenland, and Venezuela), even if they are rhetorical, also fit the bill.

There is also a seriousness to which one should approach the deployment of divisive and derisive descriptors against fellow citizens. If I am going to call someone a fascist, I should be able to back that up. I would contrast such a position with the way in which many politicians thoughtlessly fling terms around (e.g., socialist, communist, jihadist, sharia law, etc.).

I think this conversation is worth having not only because of my long-stated preference for proper classification of the political phenomenon I write about, but also because I think it helps us (even those who are prone to agree with me) understand how deep the problem is that we are facing. (There is also the wishful thinking that someone, somewhere, will be persuaded.)

On that latter score, it has to be recognized and understood that the fascist politics of which I am concerned are not the sole domain of Donald J. Trump, but infuse a substantial chunk of contemporary American politics (and also have some resonances globally). The increase, for example, in deep nationalism linked to imagined boundaries of culture and race is part of this picture. There is a very real, and very concerning, illiberal movement in the world that wants desperately to impose its vision of “normal” on others, even if force is necessary. It is inherent to what Jason Stanley correctly identifies as “the politics of us v. them” (as I have discussed before, and plan to again).

Indeed, if anything, for my own mental organization, and to allow a structured classification of certain actions by this administration and its allies (e.g., the way it deals with the trans issue or why I find certain elements of Christian nationalism so disturbing), I have decided to post about several attempts to define fascism as a political enterprise even more thoroughly than I have already done. Indeed, as the title of the post notes, this is my third such specific entry (although not my only post on this subject).

In this post, I want to discuss an essay by Umberto Eco from The New York Review from 1995, “Ur-Fascism.”

Eco was a writer, cultural critic, and student of philosophy who was a child during Mussolini’s reign. His essay was part remembrance of his childhood and Italy’s liberation at the end of WWII, but it is chiefly about what fascism is in its core, prototypical state (hence “ur”). He notes, for example, an issue I have discussed here at OTB: the fact that we all tend to so associate fascism with Nazism and Hitler that it makes it hard for modern minds to accept the concept of fascism without there having to be perfect parallels (I wrote about this rather extensively last year: How WWII Affects Contemporary Thinking).

Let’s dive a bit into the essay.

Eco on What Fascism Is Not

I think it is important to note that Eco correctly identifies some things that fascism is not (or, at least, incomplete views of the subject).

It is not a specific form of totalitarian governance (i.e., that it manifests identically in each case). See my highlighted portions below.

Nevertheless, historical priority does not seem to me a sufficient reason to explain why the word fascism became a synecdoche, that is, a word that could be used for different totalitarian movements. This is not because fascism contained in itself, so to speak in their quintessential state, all the elements of any later form of totalitarianism. On the contrary, fascism had no quintessence. Fascism was a fuzzy totalitarianism, a collage of different philosophical and political ideas, a beehive of contradictions. Can one conceive of a truly totalitarian movement that was able to combine monarchy with revolution, the Royal Army with Mussolini’s personal milizia, the grant of privileges to the Church with state education extolling violence, absolute state control with a free market? The Fascist Party was born boasting that it brought a revolutionary new order; but it was financed by the most conservative among the landowners who expected from it a counter-revolution. At its beginning fascism was republican. Yet it survived for twenty years proclaiming its loyalty to the royal family, while the Duce (the unchallenged Maximal Leader) was arm-in-arm with the King, to whom he also offered the title of Emperor. But when the King fired Mussolini in 1943, the party reappeared two months later, with German support, under the standard of a “social” republic, recycling its old revolutionary script, now enriched with almost Jacobin overtones.

It is also not simply Nazism. As I have argued before, Nazism was a subset of fascism, not the other way around.

There was only one Nazism. We cannot label Franco’s hyper-Catholic Falangism as Nazism, since Nazism is fundamentally pagan, polytheistic, and anti-Christian. But the fascist game can be played in many forms, and the name of the game does not change. 

There are variances that are important to remember. Hitler’s regime was not identical to Mussolini’s, which, in turn, was not the same as Franco’s, etc.

Fascism became an all-purpose term because one can eliminate from a fascist regime one or more features, and it will still be recognizable as fascist. Take away imperialism from fascism and you still have Franco and Salazar. Take away colonialism and you still have the Balkan fascism of the Ustashes. Add to the Italian fascism a radical anti-capitalism (which never much fascinated Mussolini) and you have Ezra Pound. Add a cult of Celtic mythology and the Grail mysticism (completely alien to official fascism) and you have one of the most respected fascist gurus, Julius Evola.

Eco on What Fascism Is

Eco states that “it is possible to outline a list of features that are typical of what I would like to call Ur-Fascism, or Eternal Fascism.” He provides 14 elements.

I would note that, like all attempts at a definition, there are places here that could be criticized or tweaked. I am not saying that this is some ideal type that is unassailable. I would even note that Eco’s approach is not as political sciencey (so to speak) as I would like it to be for my tastes. Still, it captures some important points of discussion.

I will readily allow that not all of these elements are equally or intensely present in the Trump administration/MAGA Republicanism. But I do think they are all at least identifiable to one degree or another, and some are unassailably present.

My ultimate goal is to provide this (and in the next parts of this series) as a guide for the reader and a place for me to reference back to specific instantiations of fascism in broader American politics. And I would stress, unfortunately, that I am by no means simply assigning this conversation to Trump alone. This is a broader problem for contemporary American politics (and, indeed, even global politics). We cannot ignore the degree to which it infuses significant parts of the Republican Party.

My annotations below are intended to help provide my understanding of Eco’s writing as well as contemporary examples by way of illustration. None of this is to be considered comprehensive or complete. I expect that I will be revisiting many of the below over time in my specific applications.

  1. A cult of tradition that is syncretic. Eco’s description here could be clearer in my view, but he is basically saying that ur-fascism both appeals to the past but also includes in it some notion of hidden revelation that combines in different forms of belief. The following made me think of RFK, Jr’s weirdness as an illustration of this notion: “If you browse in the shelves that, in American bookstores, are labeled as New Age, you can find there even Saint Augustine who, as far as I know, was not a fascist. But combining Saint Augustine and Stonehenge—that is a symptom of Ur-Fascism.”
  2. Rejection of modernism. This is not rejection of technology, but instead a rejection of modern views of society and an embrace of blood and soil traditionalism. It is a rejection of the revolutionary notions of 1776 and 1789, the US and French Revolutions, that were Enlightenment projects that asserted reason could be used to make new nations. Think, for example, the way JD Vance explicitly rejected the notion that believing in the ideals of the Declaration could make a person American. No, one had to have been here since at least the Civil War. It is the whole idea of “heritage Americans.”
  3. Values action over reason. In describing this element, Eco wrote the following roughly 30 years ago, but I expect it will sound all too familiar and contemporary: “The official Fascist intellectuals were mainly engaged in attacking modern culture and the liberal intelligentsia for having betrayed traditional values.”
  4. Disagreement is Treason. Eco again, “In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge. For Ur-Fascism, disagreement is treason.” I would point the reader to RFK, Jr. and his views on experts as well as to a story just this week as reported by The Hill: Trump promises NBC’s Welker will be reported to FCC ‘for rebuke or punishment’.
  5. Fear of Difference. Eco: “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.” See just about anything Stephen Miller has ever said. See Vance and his slurs against Haitians. See my post about Trump’s rhetoric as compared to Hitler’s.
  6. Appeal to a Frustrated Middle Class. Trump’s appeals on the economy, on crime, and on the border all fit.
  7. Obsession with a plot (possibly an international one). Trump has made any number of claims about how we are all being ripped off by the rest of the world, as well as the notion that places like Venezuela purposefully emptied their prisons and sent criminals to the US. We also see Great Replacement Theory rhetoric about immigrants from Trump and his allies.
  8. Enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak. This element is a bit vague, and Eco doesn’t give it a label the way he does most of the others. This element is weaker in the American context than many of the others, but not entirely. Trump does talk like the US has been beaten down by outside forces in terms of economics. He has repeatedly asserted that the rest of the world was laughing at us and we need to return to a previous state of greatness by stopping the rest of the world from exploiting us, even though we are also the Most Powerful. There are also echoes of this in the Iran war, wherein Iran is a massive threat that has been at war with us for 47 years and yet also we have utterly destroyed them.
  9. Life is permanent warfare. On the one hand, Trump has talked about avoiding the wars of his predecessors, yet also clearly loves using the power of the US military. The following from Eco does resonate about Trump, especially as it pertains this trade wars (which are easy to win!) and his confrontational style with our ostensible friends: “Since enemies have to be defeated, there must be a final battle, after which the movement will have control of the world. But such a “final solution” implies a further era of peace, a Golden Age, which contradicts the principle of permanent war.” I will allow that Trump is neither Hitler nor Mussolini on this front, but he also clearly revels in confrontation and does act as if he can bully the world into submission.
  10. Popular Elitism. This is a rejection of liberal democracy while also speaking like “the people” matter (with a specific definition of who the “real” people are). “Every citizen belongs to the best people of the world, the members of the party are the best among the citizens, every citizen can (or ought to) become a member of the party.” Sound familiar? Just think about how he talks about Democrats. There is also this: “Since the group is hierarchically organized (according to a military model), every subordinate leader despises his own underlings, and each of them despises his inferiors. This reinforces the sense of mass elitism.”
  11. Everybody is educated to become a hero. This is perhaps the one that I see the least of in the Trumpist view: “the Ur-Fascist hero craves heroic death, advertised as the best reward for a heroic life. The Ur-Fascist hero is impatient to die. In his impatience, he more frequently sends other people to death.” I think some connections of this could be made to Hegseth’s obsession with lethality, but I don’t think it fits Eco’s model very well.
  12. Machismo. This one, however, is present in spades. Eco describes this as “both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits” and further notes that “even sex is a difficult game to play, the Ur-Fascist hero tends to play with weapons—doing so becomes an ersatz phallic exercise.” The panic over trans persons and the overt misogyny in this crew are off the charts. See also the Christian Nationalism of people like Doug Wilson who want to take the vote away from women.
  13. Selective populism. “In a democracy, the citizens have individual rights, but the citizens in their entirety have a political impact only from a quantitative point of view—one follows the decisions of the majority. For Ur-Fascism, however, individuals as individuals have no rights, and the People is conceived as a quality, a monolithic entity expressing the Common Will. Since no large quantity of human beings can have a common will, the Leader pretends to be their interpreter. ” This may not fully encapsulate Trumpism the way it did either Hitler or Mussolini, but I would note that Trump has largely ignored the legislature and treats the government as if it belongs to him, all the while speaking in the language of populism to his base. Eco makes an especially telling prediction, especially given the pre-social era in which he wrote, “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”
  14. Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. The following sound a bit too close for my comfort as to what we are seeing in some states as it pertains to education, or to Trump’s treatment of national historic sites: “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.” And the following is even more salient in an era of social media, a fragmented cable news environment, and the various realms of influencers: “we must be ready to identify other kinds of Newspeak, even if they take the apparently innocent form of a popular talk show.”

And for anyone who wants to note that there may not be the same level of intensity of a given element in Trumpism, it is hard to deny the presence, to one degree or another, of all fourteen, which should be disturbing (if anyone wasn’t already disturbed).

Let me stop with this from his conclusion (emphasis mine):

We must keep alert, so that the sense of these words will not be forgotten again. Ur-Fascism is still around us, sometimes in plainclothes. It would be so much easier, for us, if there appeared on the world scene somebody saying, “I want to reopen Auschwitz, I want the Black Shirts to parade again in the Italian squares.” Life is not that simple. Ur-Fascism can come back under the most innocent of disguises. Our duty is to uncover it and to point our finger at any of its new instances—every day, in every part of the world. Franklin Roosevelt’s words of November 4, 1938, are worth recalling: “I venture the challenging statement that if American democracy ceases to move forward as a living force, seeking day and night by peaceful means to better the lot of our citizens, fascism will grow in strength in our land.” Freedom and liberation are an unending task.

More to come.


Side note: this quote struck me because it evoked the tech bro’s and their technofuturism and their ethos of moving fast and breaking things. And I can’t help but notice that they are often fascist-curious (if not worst).

But the early Italian Futurists were nationalist; they favored Italian participation in the First World War for aesthetic reasons; they celebrated speed, violence, and risk, all of which somehow seemed to connect with the fascist cult of youth. While fascism identified itself with the Roman Empire and rediscovered rural traditions, Marinetti (who proclaimed that a car was more beautiful than the Victory of Samothrace, and wanted to kill even the moonlight) was nevertheless appointed as a member of the Italian Academy, which treated moonlight with great respect.

18 responses to “Defining and Discussing Fascism Part III: Re-reading Eco”

  1. #8 has clearly been present for a long time. You had the contrasting complaints that Obama was weak and at the same time a dictator. We have thad the general complaint that in general liberals are a bunch of feminized, limp wristed pussies while also claiming that they control everything. Granted, this is lumped in with MAGA/conservatives wanting to claim they are victims. Really, just watch Fox for any length of time, difficult as that may be, and you will hear this contradiction several times.

    Steve

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    1. And democrats even control everything when they are out of power.

      IMO the archetype of this point,w hich is not exclusive to fascism (just a big part of it), is Tsar Nicholas II and the Russo-Japanese war. Japan was an existential threat, and Russia could defeat it over lunch if they wanted to.

      Unfortunately for Nick, he tried.

      What I find ironic is how this combines with point 6, appeal to a frustrated middle class (and glossing over the GQP is the major source of middle class frustration).

      Here there is a clear enemy that is powerful but easily defeated: the infamous top 1% (maybe the top5%). Because it’s the wealth accumulation caused by low tax rates and share value supremacy that’s keeping the middle class in an eternal struggle that resembles the Red Queen’s Race.

      There is an easy solution: fair taxes for the wealthy.

      Granted it’s not as easy as one sentence, and economic changes over the past four decades means just increasing income taxes won’t be enough, but the solution is relatively straightforward.

      What makes it impossible is the lack of will to do so.

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      1. I’ll offer one sentence from Brad DeLong – Reinstate the 2000 tax regime.

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  2. What I like about Eco’s idea of “ur-fascism” is that it tries to leave behind the notion that “it can only be fascism if it closely resembles certain 20th-century political movements.”

    In a way, Eco is saying that certain constituting elements of fascism have always been with us (and will probably continue to do so).

    I think it is more worthwhile to recognize the ugliness (and intellectual vacuousness) of these related elements rather than having a debate about whether Trump (or whoever) sufficiently resembles Mussolini or Hitler.

    The latter is not particularly productive, IMO. If only for the reason that the 1920s and 2020s will never, ever foster the exact same kind of political movement. Politics are a reflection of society. And no society remains unchanged over a 100-year period.

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    1. @drj Indeed. Just like one can be racist without using the n-word and donning a white hood.

  3. Thank you for writing this. Not surprisingly, I completely agree. (For others who don’t know me as well, see my posts on OTB strenuously arguing this point several years ago.)

    I think it’s important to underline some elements of Eco’s essay that (1) are important for understanding his depiction of fascism, and (2) are extremely relevant to the United States in 2026.

    According to Eco, fascists have contempt for the weak. Cruelty is, therefore, more than just a release of personal vileness. It’s part of the fascist political program.

    Also, fascism is a cult of death and violence. I think it’s important to describe it that way, because a people trying understand what’s happening around them retreat to sanitized or denatured language.

    In non-fascist societies, the lay public is told
    that death is unpleasant but must be faced with dignity;
    believers are told that it is the painful way to reach a
    supernatural happiness. By contrast, the Ur-Fascist hero
    craves heroic death, advertised as the best reward for a
    heroic life. The Ur-Fascist hero is impatient to die. In his
    impatience, he more frequently sends other people to
    death.

    Lastly, on Eco’s third bullet, fascists aren’t just enemies of intellectuals (see the broad spectrum attack on science and any form of expertise). Eco’s point, about the fascist’s cult of action for action’s sake, is a rejection of thinking, full stop.

    Action being beautiful in itself, it must be
    taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking
    is a form of emasculation.

    There is, by definition, no reasoning with people who are full-blown fascists. Whatever percentage of the American electorate that represents, forget about “breaking through,” or “messaging,” or pointing out hypocrisy, or other forms of appealing to their frontal lobes. That’s not what governs them, or what welds them into the fascist movement.

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    1. Also, fascism is a cult of death and violence. I think it’s important to describe it that way, because a people trying understand what’s happening around them retreat to sanitized or denatured language.

      In non-fascist societies, the lay public is told
      that death is unpleasant but must be faced with dignity;
      believers are told that it is the painful way to reach a
      supernatural happiness. By contrast, the Ur-Fascist hero
      craves heroic death, advertised as the best reward for a
      heroic life. The Ur-Fascist hero is impatient to die. In his
      impatience, he more frequently sends other people to
      death.

      In this I begin to see the glimmers of why this feels important to me. The worship of death feels more like Iran and Hamas and may explain their obsession with revenge and absolute indifference to making any sort of national progress or even relief for their long suffering people: suffering can be noble, but to give into it is the ultimate weakness. Authoritarian regimes that embrace other ideologies might value human life and a competent functioning nation somewhat more, although ultimately all authoritarians start pulling from the same playbook. Finding internal enemies, scapegoating, sending troublesome people to their deaths, etc.

  4. Given the difficulty of conveying sincerity on the internet, I want to preface the following comment with an assurance that I’m not being dismissive. I thinkthis is an interesting and quite possibly an important discussion, but I’m struggling to put into words why it is so. The contra argument is that, no, it doesn’t matter, because the primary function of any authoritarian regime is to exalt the power of the authoritarians and diminish that of everyone else, and the particular verbiage and themes they use towards that end are immaterial.

    Italy and Spain’s fascist philosophy was diametrically opposed to the philosophy of early 20th century communist Russia , but the regimes were quite similar in their tactics and in the total obedience in all facets of life they demanded from the oppressed. Were the lived experiences of those under the thumbs of the regimes really so different? So while I suspect that the type of the authoritarian regime does significantly affect the way the it affects society at large, I’m having difficulty articulating why.

    1. I very much share the sentiment.

      The New Yorker just had an extended review of a book about Hannah Arendt. She very much viewed German Naziism and Russian Communism as faces of the same thing.

      I’ve been re-reading Peter Turchin’s End Times. He makes a point that as societies approach crisis, ideologies proliferate. Ideology seems more a tool than a driver. He notes that NOMINATE used to show issues falling nicely on a left-right axis, but they don’t anymore. They’ve added axes. And we can see it in the proliferation of hard-right flavors and the DSA/Dem thing. The billionaires financing the GOPs (rhyming with the landowners who sponsored Mussolini and corporations sponsoring Hitler) have some sort of scattershot ideology not necessarily shared by their figurehead, Trump.

      It’s important to recognize the fascism in the modern GOP, but it’s also somehow unsatisfying in a way I have trouble articulating.

      1. @MarkedMan @gVOR10 There is a lot there to unpack.

        As @Kingdaddy notes, there is the whole totalitarian v. authoritarian aspect of it all.

        I think that the “why” matters and does have implications: Soviet communism was awful for different reasons than Nazi Germany, and the motivations were different, leading to different policies.

        In the US context, a radical left version of Trump would be doing very different things than the Trump administration is doing (even if they did some very bad things).

        We make a mistake thinking only in terms of the most extreme regimes (e.g., Nazi Germany, Stalin’s USSR).

        Part of my point is to demonstrate that this is not just some semi-aberrant version of normal politics that can snap back to the status quo ante if we just come to our senses.

        On that last point: I think we are going to be dealing with all of this for a while, and so understanding it is in our best interest.

        I do think that there is a swath of people who could have their eyes opened, even if part of the reason is simply how bad things get (even in mundane areas like gas prices and such). Having a permission structure (i.e., seeing it as fascism) to change their minds is helpful. And all it takes it small numbers across the right states and districts to actually matter.

        Ultimately, I have always thought that the “why” matters in terms of understanding, diagnosing, and solving. But I readily allow that if I starve to death in prison, I don’t much care if I was unjustly sent there by a Nazi or a Stalinist.

    2. This is one of the messier parts of the discussion of fascism, so your questions are entirely understandable. Fascism is a type of political movement, just like communism — or, for that matter, small-L liberalism. It is an intent, a mindset, a political program, a set of demands, all rolled into one.

      Totalitarianism and authoritarianism are times of regimes. They are an approach to governing. Radical movements often impose them once they come into power. You might say that Bolshevism had a totalitarian bent within the movement, so it was no surprise how the Soviet Union turned out. But the movement and the regime are two separate things.

      I think this confusion may have muffled the alarm bells about Trump and MAGA. If you look at his first term, you might say that the regime (the American government) did change, but not by as much as many feared. So how could you call Trump, Miller, et al. fascists?

      Let’s focus on Miller, since he’s the most conspicuously faschy of the lot. Stephen Miller was always Stephen Miller. He was always a fascist. He always wanted mass deportations, immigrants living in fear, institutionalized cruelty, paramilitary goon squads, and all the rest. How many of those fascist ambitions got implemented was the difference between Trump I and Trump II.

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  5. We must keep alert, so that the sense of these words will not be forgotten again.

    or

    Stay woke!

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  6. I noted above that while I wholeheartedly agree with Steven’s post there’s something unsatisfying. I’ve been chewing on it. A few observations:
    – I noted above Turchin’s observation that ideology becomes important as societies approach crisis, but they also proliferate. Which seems apparent looking around us. The content of an ideology isn’t important, it’s a tool more than a map. The regime has some sort of confused de facto ideology defined by their actions. The challengers have a spectrum of inconsistent thoughts defined in opposition to the regime and to rival challengers.
    – I also noted Hannah Arendt’s view that fascism and communism ended up mostly the same thing.
    – There is, as noted, some difficulty in defining fascism.
    – A couple of people above note the death cult aspect of fascism. I’d broaden that to it being as much about aesthetics as content. Which we see around us, but now more Marvel than Art Deco.
    – I recall the Nazis had a committee defining official Nazi ideology. IIRC it was still meeting at the end of the war. I would assume they were struggling with updates as the ideology had to follow Hitler’s acts and statements rather than the other way around. He cut a deal with Japan?! Call rewrite. And there were likely things they couldn’t say, or that looked stupid when stated plainly.
    – The religious struggle to understand atheism. They’re used to categorizing the beliefs and practices of various religions and atheism doesn’t really fit in that box.
    – Karl Popper talks of scientists constructing definitions right to left. We have this collection of things that behave alike, we could use a name. Juvenile Cockers and German Shepherds are alike in these many ways, we’ll call them puppies. As opposed to we have Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Franco’s Spain, even Hirohito/Togo’s Japan that we want to lump as “fascist”, what are their common properties?
    – My own feeling is that politics is largely a matter of personality. See Prius or Pickup? or the nurturant parent v strict father models Lakoff uses. I think the best primer on politics is Daniel Kahneman’s Thinking, Fast and Slow, which barely mentions politics but stresses the prominence of intuition over critical thinking.
    – Conservatives often observe that they have a clear (really all over the place), articulated canon, Burke, Hayek, Kirk, who have you; but liberals don’t. Someone replied that we do, it’s called Western Literature.
    – Noting Steven’s cogent reply to me above, yes, why matters. But why is really complicated: Yes, Trump’s racism and Stephen Millers repressed Judaism. The conservative need for a daddy expressed as Fuhrerprinzip the Unitary Executive. Trump’s ignorant whims and failure to grow beyond running a business. Servicing the billionaire constituents. Conning the MAGA. Etc.

    In my mind fascism is an instantiation of faux populism, which is not really an ideology. Any society has a pool of ressentiment: racism, fear of “other”, resentment of cultural elites (city slickers), economic anxiety, bewilderment by modernization , yearning for a mythical past. Resentment that the Entente whipped us. Resentment that we were with the Entnete and didn’t get much. Any ambitious politician without ethics and with nothing positive to sell can choose to appeal to this.

    Fascism, and GOP “populism”, don’t quite fit in an ideology box. They are really an ad hoc collection of tactics more than a belief system. Yes, Hitler was a monster and genuinely antisemitic. But he rose to power by lying and maintained power by oppression. It’s true that current GOPs are fascists, but I’m not sure that tells us all that much as opposed to just saying they’re authoritarian assholes.

    I’m struggling a bit with this. I’ve noted before that sometimes my comments are self-imposed essay assignments to clarify and test my own opinions. Thank you for your attention to bearing with me.

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    1. It’s true that current GOPs are fascists, but I’m not sure that tells us all that much as opposed to just saying they’re authoritarian assholes.

      Thank you! This is very much where I see the issue, but I haven’t had the language to describe my position. Moreover, also thanks to Dr. Taylor’s observation in the main article that the current situation will be with us for some time to come. As I see the problem, it’s not simply that GOPs (and maybe conservatives at large) are assholes, but that assholishness is ascending as a trend, certainly in the US, but also globally.

    2. @gVOR10 I appreciate the thoughtful engagement–there is much to think about.

      But I do think that while they are definitely authoritarian assholes, that is just too imprecise a description, satisfying though it may be to note!

  7. Steven, I’d be interested in your thoughts on how fascism and the Silicon Valley Techbro dedication to TESCREAL intersect. The basic idea is that the group of billionaires running the AI companies self-radicalized by not having friends who can tell them an idea or action is F’d up.
    We have to pay attention to their nonsense because they throw money around.

    1. @Gavin Let me give it some thought. I do think, as I somewhat alluded to at the very end above, that the techbros have some fascistic tendencies that we need to be aware of.

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