The Wayward Court

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Suppose that the president ordered the storage of very heavy items on the floor of the building above your apartment, and it was known that one more shipment to that storage facility would cause the floor to collapse, destroying your apartment and killing everyone below. And let’s suppose that you were able to get an injunction against that last shipment, but SCOTUS, in its infinite wisdom, decided that this was all hypothetical, and that we really couldn’t know what the consequences would be until the shipment was delivered. After all, maybe the engineers are all wrong! No, let the shipment go forward, and then we can determine if the damage warrants lawsuits or criminal charges.

Or, maybe, since the family about to be crushed seems unconcerned that suing the president to stop the shipment can’t be done by the neighbors across the street because they lack standing.

Recognizing that my analogy is imperfect, the basic approach to the law and the actions of the president by the current SCOTUS majority pretty much fits. It is what I was complaining about the other day in the ballroom case. I recognize that the way our legal system works is oriented towards addressing completed actions rather than hypothetical ones, but it is also the case that actions are frequently blocked pending a full review of facts.

To use an analogy I alluded to in the linked post, if there is a property dispute over whether a century-old tree is on my property or your property and you want to remove it and I don’t, courts typically would block the removal pending a ruling on where the property line actually is. It is simply logical: you can’t replace a century-old tree, so waiting for the case to be adjudicated should mean that it remains pending findings of fact and law.

The current majority on this Court seems willing, when Trump is the one who wants to tear out the tree, to allow the tearing and then figure out whether it was okay to do so. Again, the ballroom construction is a perfect illustration.

The Court also used to adhere to the notion that disrupting elections was something that could not be done at the last minute *the Purcell principle), but we have already seen in the Voter Rights Act case that it was more than willing to step in even as primaries were happening.

Conversely, they are happy to take their sweet time ruling on things like the question of whether section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment applied to Trump, not to mention the immunity case.

The majority has consistently demonstrated alacrity when it wishes and likewise has acted like molasses at a whim.

Moreover, they have a key discretion not to act at all if they so choose. As such, all of these shadow docket insertions of their opinions into the mix are totally willful and not the result of some constitutional requirement or responsibility. Indeed, they continue to show that they lack what would have once been thought of as a “conservative” temperament (i.e., one that shows constraint and that is not activist in nature).

And yes, I understand that standing is a legitimate issue. However, I would note that first, there is no reason why the lower courts can’t consider that in due course instead of having the Justices opine from on high. Second, given that the US Constitution gives states the power to regulate elections, and only Congress can intervene, then it is unclear to me how states don’t have standing when the president asserts a clearly unconstitutional power grab into their domain.

Here’s Article I, Section 4, paragraph 1:

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

It is hard to be much clearer. The state legislatures have the power to conduct elections, and the US Congress can further regulate congressional elections. One need not adhere to a doctrinaire “textualism” to see this. But, since we know that four of the Justices, as a minimum, can’t comprehend English, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

Back to analogizing, the Third Amendment states “No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.” If Trump issued an EO that ICE and National Guardsmen in US cities would be allowed to sleep, rent-free, in people’s homes, would this Court allow the order to go forward and then only allow citizens to sue to get the soldiers out of their homes?

It strikes me as legitimate to have the Court block obviously unlawful orders, especially breathtakingly blatant unconstitutional ones.

And yet, it is not hyperbole to suggest that the current Court might allow such an order pending the meaning of “time of peace” and “prescribed by law” in the face of such an order.

I would note that really the only practical remedy for this situation is for the next Democratic president to expand the Court. I see no other viable alternative.

The good news on the mail-in ballot issue is that another injunction remains in effect and there is likely another one coming, perhaps today, with more judicial action in the air.

In other words, the ruling under discussion is not the final word. While I am cautiously optimistic that the obvious constitutional outcome will occur, it is nonetheless disconcerting that the Court didn’t just stay out of this. And the fact that it is possible the SCOTUS might allow the president to act in this manner is real and therefore disturbing.

See the following.

I will conclude with some repetition: the only practical remedy for this situation is for the next Democratic president to expand the Court. I see no other viable alternative.

33 responses to “The Wayward Court”

  1. the Third Amendment states “No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.” If Trump issued an EO that ICE and National Guardsmen in US cities would be allowed to sleep, rent-free, in people’s homes, would this Court allow the order to go forward and then only allow citizens to sue to get the soldiers out of their homes?

    Jeez, don’t give him any ideas!!!!

  2. Years ago when I started following this blog I did so because I wanted to hear what principled conservatives had to say. I would have laughed in the face of anyone who suggested that one of the blog’s headliners would advocate for expanding the size of the Supreme Court to address decisions he disagreed with. And yet here we are. And I, contrary to 40 years of what I thought I believed, find myself agreeing with him. Hard to believe, but I think it’s now the conservative position to advocate for packing the court rather than let the current crew continue to blow our system up. John Roberts has a lot to answer for.

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  3. Problem is there’s no mechanism for presidents to expand the court. Congress could, but won’t.

    The next Dem president should however get comfortable publicly challenging the court’s authority and legitimacy. But I doubt any electable Dem would also be the type to call out smug collaborator John Roberts as a historic failure. Maybe Ossoff? Or Kelly? Maybe…?

    Hillary would; that’s why she’s not president. We were told in 2008 and 2016 her comfort with pissing off Republicans was a bad thing, which made no sense to me then or now. Democrats are schizo that way. We claim to want raw unbridled fighters, but then help smear them as “shrill” and “divisive” when we get one. We actually prefer “likeable” pushovers like Obama and Biden. We go wobbly about fully embracing those who’d smash the patriarchy in its smug face.

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    1. @DK Indeed. I was imprecise in my language. A Democratic president is necessary, but not sufficient, for this goal. A willing Dem Congress is also necessary (perhaps just the Senate), and I certainly have real doubts that that will materialize.

    2. Expanding the court is not a long term solution in itself. It would be a bandaid on the current system to stem the bleeding, but the current damage to the court is caused by lifetime appointments and timing vacancies. Exacerbated by a fascist putting three loyalists on the court, plus a decades long plan by the Heritage Fascists.

      I don’t think we get to significant changes that address that without some major crisis. Since I’m old, I think I’d rather have the bandaid on the current system.

      In the meantime, we do have an executive with a large police force protected by qualified immunity and I see no reason to think Kavanaugh wouldn’t appear to be reaching for a gun if stopped by a Democratic administration’s ICE goons who are just detaining him briefly while they make sure he’s who he says he is. The Supreme Court has really put a lot of effort into ensuring that an administration and its goons have these protections. (Or just drone strikes… didn’t the court scoff at the question of whether the president could order drone strikes on the court itself?)

      (I would prefer all administrations and their goons to be more restricted, but this may be a case where we need abuses by both sides to create the environment for changes)

      1. Agree completely. Expanding the court merely kicks the problem down the road. The minute we have a 7/6 Republican controlled expanded court, we’re back to the current situation.

        Judicial rotation between the circuits and the SCOTUS might help solve the real problem – which is that a predictably MAGA-sympathetic court emboldens Mr. Trump to behave without regard to law or precedent.

      2. @Gustopher I used “practical” as a modifier on purpose.

        I have no illusions that it is a complete, let alone permanent, fix. I was certainly not suggesting that Court expansions fixes thinks like ICE.

        I mean that the only practical solution to a Court that will not follow the Constitution is, at least in the short term, expansion.

  4. Since there appears to be no open forum today, I’ll put this here: In view of his escalating trade war with Canada, Trump wants to rename Lake Ontario Lake America.

  5. I would note that really the only practical remedy for this situation is for the next Democratic president to expand the Court. I see no other viable alternative.

    Following up my pessimism about the outcome of a ’26 Blue Wave in a comment on Jame’s post, this can only happen if the assumed D Senate kills the filibuster. The Brits have been engaged in a long process of neutering the House of Lords, we need something similar, albeit more urgent. What can be done without amending the Constitution?

    I’ll link to Paul Campos at LGM who points out

    The revolutionaries here are the Trumpists.

    and add that while it was originally said in wholly inappropriate circumstances – extremism in defense of liberty is no vice.

    Jeffries meeting with Jared sure smells more like negotiating a modus operandi than looking for ways to crush the bastards. (Googling I stumbled across that there’s a retired NBA player named Jared Jeffries.)

    1. Hold on to the notion some suffering so the rest of us can stay happy ( and prosperous). Gustopher may be onto something with that observation about the goals of the moderates. Perhaps they were discussing how to spread the disenfranchisement more evenly. Surely, that’s a good (or at least, less bad) goal, n’est pas?

      1. Oh, god, what did I say?

        1. I actually looked in my text messages because I’m pretty sure that I shared the quote with Luddite, but I didn’t find it earlier. I don’t want to be putting words in your mouth, so I willing to take credit for the idea if only because I’m a little envious that you thought of it and I didn’t. Either way, the OG statement was something to the effect that moderates are willing to accept oppressing some so that the rest of us will live better lives. It’s a stunning (to me at least) observation. Brilliant!

      2. I have always argued that a capitalist economy requires a permanent underclass – somebody has to do the work in the businesses that capitalists invest in.

  6. A corrupt SCOTUS in every way.
    Kagan said last month…

    “Is this court very conservative? Does it do a bunch of things that are out of the playbook of the conservative legal movement that I think are deeply wrong? You know, yes,” Kagan said. “But is this court the kind of puppet for the current administration? I think definitely not.”

    I call bullshit.

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    1. The farce force is strong in that one.

  7. I really, really don’t have a fix on what this is about. I can’t say any theory that people are fronting is wrong, but none of them seem right to me either.

    Purportedly, the EO in question is there to try to coerce states into giving the Feds their voter rolls. States are (and rightly so) resisting this. This is a conservative position, a conservative attitude, by the way. Utah is resisting handing over voter rolls, for instance.

    I’m in agreement with that. And yet, I don’t know what they want to do with said voter rolls? Steal them and sell them to data brokers? Send scary mailings to people? Send ICE to their houses on election day? Again, I don’t know that any theory is wrong.

    One thought – just a possibility – is that the whole thing is meant to be a feint? Just scare a lot of people and get them to spend money and time on stuff that isn’t supporting candidates in elections?

    I really don’t know. And yet, if there are those on the Court that do know, or think they know, they might be fine with letting the charade play out. As long as its not the real thing?

    1. @Jay L. Gischer

      And yet, I don’t know what they want to do with said voter rolls?

      They want to take the voter rolls and have USPS use those lists to determine if a given voter is eligible to vote by mail. It is a hope to repurpose USPS as some sort of elections clearinghouse, which is not their role, nor is it something they are adequately capable of doing.

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      1. The state voter rolls are by definition correct. The federal lists being different are by definition incorrect, possibly deliberately for reasons.

        (Isn’t the idea developing federal lists derived/vetted from the states’ lists?)

        1. @golem8eight: Maybe this will help: the EO wants to compare state lists to lists the administration has compiled to confirm that the state lists are correct. And they want to use USPS as the filtering mechanism.

          https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/executive-order-14399-ensuring-citizenship-verification-and-integrity-federal-elections

      2. They want to take the voter rolls and have USPS use those lists to determine if a given voter is eligible to vote by mail.

        It has to be something more than that, as the only ballots the states would be mailing to anybody would be from the states’ voter rolls.

        1. IIRC, they have said that they will be ‘vetted’ by DHS.
          In other words, Trump will control mail voting, deciding who can and can not.

        2. @golem8eight: I may be missing something, but what I describe seems pretty insidious, especially given that recent “reports” out of the admin about foreign voters have been wildly inaccurate.

          The very idea that USPS would have any role in determining who has the right to get the ballot or mail it back is pretty awful, IMO.

      3. Nor does our Constitution grant them that role, in any way shape or form.

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    2. The bizarre thing to me is that certain parts of the voter rolls are readily available. What this administration is looking for is what amounts to the back-end stuff that states maintain, and that are personally identifiable.

      If you take that and marry it up with the kind of online scraping that was being done by Cambridge Analytica, you have a very powerful national database to push highly targeted voter messages to, AND you can parse and sift massive amounts of data to challenge individual votes/voters. That “find me 11,000 votes” comment takes on a new angle when viewed through this lens.

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    3. Send scary mailings to people?

      If the administration wanted to pay the states to send mailers on their behalf that clarified who could vote, and how to check that you can legally vote, I don’t think there would be a lot of pushback.

      Some people are on voter rolls incorrectly. Very few of them vote, and there is no plausible claim that it has affected the outcome of any elections, but to the extent that it is a problem… (also, its snowbirds — wealthy Republican voters with two houses in different states)

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  8. Can’s states and counties contract with courier services like UPS to deliver and return ballots?

    1. The problem with using UPS or FedEx is that by law only USPS is permitted to put stuff in mailboxes. So, logistically, how would you deliver to, for example, a large apartment building with many mail boxes in the lobby? There are a variety of possible alternate ways of getting ballots to people, I have no doubt the western vote-by-mail state Secretaries of State are contingency planning but understandably being careful about what they say/reveal publically.

    2. Most state election statutes require a postmark on returned ballots, and only the USPS has the authority to postmark mail. So no.

      1. It seems to me that the return of ballots is less of an issue than the distribution of them.

        One can just take them by the dropoff, of course.

        The USPS could slow-walk delivering ballots in certain zip codes, and this would fit well, which is to say terrible, with the whole “we have to get it by election day or it doesn’t count” business.

        Nevertheless, I think distribution of ballots is a much more difficult problem to solve.

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        1. The issue for all ballots is ensuring the whole round trip is protected. In most places, the process is: apply for an absentee ballot (that gets logged), absentee ballot is sent (logged). Individual votes, and either mails it (USPS, with a postmark), drops it off in person (must be the voter or in some places, a trusted representative –this is logged), or if available, drops it in an official collection point (these then get picked up and this is also logged).

          The signatures on the ballots are then checked against the official signatures on file.

          The entire chain of custody, from request to ballot receipt, has documentation points. Introducing a third party (UPS, FedEx) would require developing a chain of custody that works with their delivery processes–this is not a small thing. Impossible? No. Really intricate? Yes.

          And, by introducing new delivery and return mechanisms, there’d also need to be process for cross-use: ballot delivered by UPS, returned via USPS, with the need to record the entire chain of custody for each voter.

        2. The situation varies depending which state is involved.

          In Arizona, there is no problem with returning the ballots because it makes no difference if the ballot is mailed back or hand carried to one of many drop boxes. Either way, the ballot must be in a special signed by the voter envelope that has a barcode identifying the voter for signature matching. Postmarking is irrelevant/unessesary because in AZ ballots must be received, not just sent, by election day.

  9. I’m amazed that with all that was listed in answer to my question, anyone would think mail ballots have any kind of a problem.

    Also that the post office should be armored against political interference.

  10. @golem8eight

    “The situation varies depending which state is involved.”

    Sure, but there’s still a chain of custody requirement, which I covered in my response.

    “In Arizona, there is no problem with returning the ballots because it makes no difference if the ballot is mailed back or hand carried to one of many drop boxes.”

    Mailed back, hand carried to the drop boxes, or hand carried directly to the place of issuance were all noted in my response. The question was whether a third party (UPS/FedEx) could assist in the process for BOTH the delivery and return of ballots. The answer is no–or at least, not without a LOT of additional work and possibly not without changing state laws.

    The idea of using third party channels was explored during covid, and election officials very quickly bumped up against a range of issues.

    UPS and FedEx both have excellent tracking mechanisms, that’s not the problem. The issue is that the election authority needs to have visibility/connection into that chain of control, and because elections are state-run and many election authorities are at or near the smallest level of government (county, or in some cases, at the town level), it would be hard to standardize.